Guy Under You 0 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 it means that critics would try to tear her and ARTPOP down but she knew that a hybrid can withstand these things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eifulien 2,969 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 What's with all of you claiming that ARTPOP is her 4th album????? It's the THIRD one. The Fame Monster was EP in US and in the rest of world a re-release of The Fame. You always refer to it as TF/TFM and now they're suddenly two different albums...???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvador Dali 0 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 In fact, its her own fault, since she dumped RedOne, the one who created her tbh, all her biggest hits, credibility, fame power, star rank and now she just fu?ked her all career up by trying to be artist teacher, she is a little bit too arrogant imo.. "the one who created her" You sound really stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence 235 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Then I guess we just disagree But I'll say this: if she delivered, "they" wouldn't have "come for her" That's not true. The media would have ripped her to shreds regardless of the quality of her work. Whether she delivered or not is subjective and I'm pretty sure her public image matters more in terms of how they would treat her. That's not say her actions weren't a catalyst but just because she's saying she predicted they might reflect upon her negatively it doesn't mean she's coming up with excuses. If anything, she's acknowledging the media's negative reaction more than before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Wrong. "They" were coming for her for legitimate reasons: her commercialism on Twitter in the beginning of the era (obviously contrary to her ARTPOP message), her pretentious delivery of the era's vision (the Warholian expedition mess, which everyone was right to criticize) and how the music itself was not interesting enough to deserve the title ARTPOP. Applause, DWUW and Dope got critical acclaim and artRAVE is almost only getting great reviews, so it's not as black and white as some are pretending. This era, media-wise, has been a walk in the park compared to other treatments of pop artists in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Venus 484 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 they came for her bc the whole era was messy af :awkney: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 In fact, its her own fault, since she dumped RedOne, the one who created her tbh, all her biggest hits, credibility, fame power, star rank and now she just fu?ked her all career up by trying to be artist teacher, she is a little bit too arrogant imo.. Yes it sucks that Gaga attempts to illuminate the larger world of art and music for her fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Gaga, I thought Born This Way was your third album. Generally TFM is considered to be an album, but it's actually an EP/TF re-release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,851 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 YAAASSS stan for Dangerous, it's also my #1 fave. Dangerous, then BAD, then Thriller, HIStory, Invincible, Off The Wall I still listen to these constantly: Jam In The Closet Black or White Remember The Time Will You Be There Dangerous yes my faves too Jam, In The Closet, Why You Wanna Trip On Me, Black Or White, Remember The Time, Will You Be There, Who Is It, and Dangerous are my faves from that album my fave MJ albums are in this order: Dangerous > HIStory > Bad >Thriller > Invincible > Off The Wall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wonka 4 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 That's not true. The media would have ripped her to shreds regardless of the quality of her work. Whether she delivered or not is subjective and I'm pretty sure her public image matters more in terms of how they would treat her. Completely disagree. It's just way more convenient for fans (and her) to say that she was a victim of the media. Wrong. "They" were coming for her for legitimate reasons: her commercialism on Twitter in the beginning of the era (obviously contrary to her ARTPOP message), her pretentious delivery of the era's vision (the Warholian expedition mess, which everyone was right to criticize) and how the music itself was not interesting enough to deserve the title ARTPOP. Applause, DWUW and Dope got critical acclaim and artRAVE is almost only getting great reviews, so it's not as black and white as some are pretending. This era, media-wise, has been a walk in the park compared to other treatments of pop artists in the past. Exactly. No matter what, she is given credit where credit is due. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Space 0 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Yes it sucks that Gaga attempts to illuminate the larger world of art and music for her fans.I'm not against it, but she did it in a pretentious way."the one who created her" You sound really stupid.Her debut disagrees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 this era was a mess i mean yeah applause did great it would have done better if she didnt rush release it than that dwuw venus dwuw mv mess a blackout and 11 minute video and she gives no promo to it she's just making excuses lol sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Completely disagree. It's just way more convenient for fans (and her) to say that she was a victim of the media. This omg. It's so see-through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 It means she's more deluded than I thought She can't honestly think it was not due to the messiness, the mid-era blackout, BTS drama, her acting out against media and critics Also, why did the critics not come for Katy's third era? Or One Direction? Or whoevers? Because the singers you mentioned all stay in their boxes and art pets to labels and media. Katy stays in the bubblegum pop star box by being so conventionally pretty, writing catchy almost meaningless songs and being cute. 1D.... There's nothing to hate about 1D because they just sing. They don't really do much after that. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Wonka 4 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 This omg. It's so see-through. It's like if I turned in an essay for school and got a bad grade on it. Most people would be like, "Oh that sucks. I worked hard on this! I guess I'll have to work harder or work differently next time." Gaga is basically claiming that the teacher is out to get her and wants her to fail. No. Maybe you just turned in a poorly written essay. But by claiming the teacher is out to get her, she doesn't have to take responsibility for the problems with her work. It's someone else's fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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