ClapDown 0 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 This may be somewhat of a random thought, but I feel as if Gaga should look to her live performances and create music from that perspective. Especially her acoustic versions. Because those seems to be better versions than on the album. I guess what I'm saying is less EDM and more vocals. I don't care for a reboot of past albums, but I think she should make some more simplistic music. Whatever that may sound like. Agreed. Her best songs, even some EDM songs like Paparazzi, were originally written acoustically on the piano. Gaga is one of the few singers that can also play an instrument and she should really take advantage of that. I think that's part of why ARTPOP was underwhelming - she was clearly writing songs to instrumental tracks that producers had already made, so it didn't have that characteristic Gaga feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Agreed. Her best songs, even some EDM songs like Paparazzi, were originally written acoustically on the piano. Gaga is one of the few singers that can also play an instrument and she should really take advantage of that. I think that's part of why ARTPOP was underwhelming - she was clearly writing songs to instrumental tracks that producers had already made, so it didn't have that characteristic Gaga feel. Probably the best reason of why ARTPOP didn't turn out the way we all expected. Producers are key, and I would like to see Gaga write and then create the instrumentals after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I see you can't read either. Well done. Have some applause. What exactly can't I read? That you're rude? Read that. That you make a huge deal over a WP? Read that. That you believe that Little Managers are people who just wanna express their creativity and to call them a Little Manager is trying to put that down? Read that and chuckled. That you want Gaga to only work with famous producers and not give a second look at new and unknown producers aka you are so success hungry? Read that. :later: And I don't need to be applauded. Unlike you... I don't require approval from other people (in the OP case The GP giving approval to Gaga) to be happy. :kisses: ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClapDown 0 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Probably the best reason of why ARTPOP didn't turn out the way we all expected. Producers are key, and I would like to see Gaga write and then create the instrumentals after. +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster 2 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Agreed. Her best songs, even some EDM songs like Paparazzi, were originally written acoustically on the piano. Gaga is one of the few singers that can also play an instrument and she should really take advantage of that. I think that's part of why ARTPOP was underwhelming - she was clearly writing songs to instrumental tracks that producers had already made, so it didn't have that characteristic Gaga feel. Paparazzi isn't EDM.... But I understand what you're saying, and I agree. I think the producers should produce to suit the song, which is the vocal, rather than the other way around. Although that'd make the album just a remix of a bunch of ballads... lol.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 81,811 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I think she should bring new producers. Some people who are sucessful and who are going to bring fresh music in her career : people like Diplo, Timbaland, Avicii, Stargate. I'd like her to write a song with Sia, they are both great songwriters, they could do a huge hit together. I wish her to return to pure pop music and give up loud electro sounds. For her old friends, I'd like Garibay and Red One to produce one or two songs on it. I'd like her to do one or two featurings, but she definitely should give up the old school artists (like Too $hort, Twista and R. Kelly); She should turn towards new generation and sucessful artists. I'd like a duet with Beyoncé or Rihanna. A hot and sensual song. I hope she's going to do the third part of the trilogy on next album... + I don't want Zedd and DJWS back. Personal taste. DJWS has already worked a lot with her and I don't want Gaga to work only with him... Zedd... hum I'd say I don't want to listen to his EDM again on a Gaga album... At least not soon... Concerning Madeon, I'm fine with him working with Lady Gaga again ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster 2 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 What exactly can't I read? That you're rude? Read that. That you make a huge deal over a WP? Read that. That you believe that Little Managers are people who just wanna express their creativity and to call them a Little Manager is trying to put that down? Read that and chuckled. That you want Gaga to only work with famous producers and not give a second look at new and unknown producers aka you are so success hungry? Read that. :later: And I don't need to be applauded. Unlike you... I don't require approval from other people (in the OP case The GP giving approval to Gaga) to be happy. So you basically think anybody with a different viewpoint to you isn't worthy of expressing it. Brilliant. You're going to have a hard time when puberty sets in, love. You won't know what your feelings towards things are! As for being success hungry... look, in an ideal world, success would come with talent. Unfortunately, it doesn't. And unfortunately, money comes with success. In order to do all these crazy huge things, Gaga is going to need a ton of money to keep rolling in to do them. For that she needs success. At the rate of decline she's seen over the past few albums, she's going to be back to playing theatres in 2 years time.. and barely selling them out. And then what? She's going to make a stage out of cardboard boxes and have a disco stick with fairy lights? No. Gaga is created by her budget, and for that she needs the money, and for the money she needs success. In addition to that, people won't want to work with Gaga if she keeps churning out stinkers. She'll have to take what's on offer rather than having the pick of any producer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Agreed. Her best songs, even some EDM songs like Paparazzi, were originally written acoustically on the piano. Gaga is one of the few singers that can also play an instrument and she should really take advantage of that. I think that's part of why Artpop was underwhelming - she was clearly writing songs to instrumental tracks that producers had already made, so it didn't have that characteristic Gaga feel. Only 2 tracks. Y'all making a big deal out of such a tiny thing. And we have 0 proof that ARTPOP songs weren't originally created on the piano. And this a new sound anyway. She wanted this to be a more electric sound. "Expressing my passion through an electronic rage" - Lady Gaga on ARTPOP (along those lines). ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 So you basically think anybody with a different viewpoint to you isn't worthy of expressing it. Brilliant. You're going to have a hard time when puberty sets in, love. You won't know what your feelings towards things are! As for being success hungry... look, in an ideal world, success would come with talent. Unfortunately, it doesn't. And unfortunately, money comes with success. In order to do all these crazy huge things, Gaga is going to need a ton of money to keep rolling in to do them. For that she needs success. At the rate of decline she's seen over the past few albums, she's going to be back to playing theatres in 2 years time.. and barely selling them out. And then what? She's going to make a stage out of cardboard boxes and have a disco stick with fairy lights? No. Gaga is created by her budget, and for that she needs the money, and for the money she needs success. In addition to that, people won't want to work with Gaga if she keeps churning out stinkers. She'll have to take what's on offer rather than having the pick of any producer. Umm when did I put down your opinion. I expressed mine too. And then you said "I can't read." Err... Are you sure you know what you're talking about. And I'm gonna take a guess and say you think that TF+TFM era was her best era blah blah blah right? Well Gaga barely had any money and managed to make the best of it. And besides she's still rich and we don't have to worry about her running out of money for a long time. And you are so dramatic Jesus mother f--king Christ. Her last few albums? Born This Way sold A M A Z I N G. And ARTPOP? She's on parr with her peres and above some. And she's racking in a lot of money through this tour. So what are you talking about? And Gaga isn't likely to EVER have problems with touring. She is wordly acclaimed for her amazing performances. And she won't have to worry. And MANY popular producers would K I L L for a chance to work with one of the biggest pop stars on the planet. You are clearly so obsessed with the opinions of the General public you can't even realize that Gaga is doing fine. The Critics are against Gaga right now because she isn't the cool girl right now so they make it out to be worse than it is. And fans like you will believe what thy say without taking into account that this is Lady Gaga. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Max Martin & Gaga together ? Never, they won't suit well. Well I would want Gaga as the EP tbh,William Orbit to produce a couple of ballads and midtempos. My body is ready for Gaga's Ray Of Light. EDIT : I would like to see writing a few songs with Sia, I'm sure they will make a fabulous work. ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster 2 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Umm when did I put down your opinion. I expressed mine too. And then you said "I can't read." Err... Are you sure you know what you're talking about. And I'm gonna take a guess and say you think that TF+TFM era was her best era blah blah blah right? Well Gaga barely had any money and managed to make the best of it. And besides she's still rich and we don't have to worry about her running out of money for a long time. And you are so dramatic Jesus mother ****ing Christ. Her last few albums? Born This Way sold A M A Z I N G. And ARTPOP? She's on parr with her peres and above some. And she's racking in a lot of money through this tour. So what are you talking about? And Gaga isn't likely to EVER have problems with touring. She is wordly acclaimed for her amazing performances. And she won't have to worry. And MANY popular producers would K I L L for a chance to work with one of the biggest pop stars on the planet. You are clearly so obsessed with the opinions of the General public you can't even realize that Gaga is doing fine. The Critics are against Gaga right now because she isn't the cool girl right now so they make it out to be worse than it is. And fans like you will believe what thy say without taking into account that this is Lady Gaga. No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idldte 2 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Bring Fernando back and realease a good pop album that at the same time is still experimental Like seriously Born This Way is flawless! By far her best written and produced album, Fernando and Gaga together make amazing music. I would kill for a new Fernando and Gaga track TFM is her best written and produced album imo. Fernando is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idldte 2 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Red One is the only way Gaga can return to her throne. Her current producers seriously suck. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyerased 2,886 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 While listening to ARTPOP I can't hear gaga on it. It's not gaga. Maybe Gypsy, Aura and Venus but not the rest. The instrumentals sounds better without the vocals tbh. The lyrics were good, the instrumentals were great but they did not create something that screams gaga. It's like they plastered Gaga's vocals upon edm tracks which isn't good for me tbh. I believe gaga should accept her own limitations and improve upon them - with the help of others. She shouldn't settle for what she already achieved and create something bigger. I hate it when she said that she already has a number 1 single so she doesn't need to prove nothing. She excels when she is challenged. I feel like when she was creating ARTPOP she has words on everything. Nobody's trying to go against her (In her team, not the label), everybody say yes to everything she does... and when they say something negative, she shuts them off her life. It's not bad to create something that you like, but it's better to create something that everyone will like and even something that will inspire them. Gaga wants to inspire us with ARTPOP, but along the way she seems to forgot that it's not just monsters listening to her, it's the whole world. In order to inspire the world you need to create something that will not turn them-off something that they want to go inside them. I'm not saying that she should create something generic, but something that is very accessible and has impact. Something that is magical will last forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 No. Wow well done on your intelligent, well thought out and convincing response! It had me thinking and now that you put it like that... YOU'RE RIGHT! WOW! I'VE BEEN SO BLIND! Thanks. :later: ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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