Tropico 4,145 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Damnit! Mods close this mess. It could stay civil but someone had to bring Madonna into this. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myOWNtable 182 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 +1, If I remember correctly, Madonna has more solo writing credits on her first album alone than Gaga has in total. (I know there's the argument that Gaga is generous with her credits, but that's not likely when it's her record label's money) These comments are now simply an argument about whether Madonna or Lady Gaga is better. That's not what this thread is about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 The whole Madonna - Gaga feud was never really a thing outside the fans world, though. I'm still unbiased by saying this ; Gaga had zero impact on the MDNA tour's success. I can't at everyone who thinks that fans don't have an impact on sales. And obviously people outside of the GP (I'm not saying a lot but definately some) heard about the scandal. And like I said. MADONNA NEEDS INTEREST. SOURCE? GAGA. INTEREDT = SUCCESS. GAGA = IMPACT ON ALBUM SALES = IMPACT ON TOUR. THEREFORE GAGA IMPACTED ON THE ALBUM AND INDIRECTLY ON THE TOUR. Gosh. This isn't hard to grasp. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannaeDrive 3,412 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Where are the mods when you need them??? /thread "Fame Is A Boomerang" - Maria Callas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) when a person is not blind and not agree with all gaga does he's not a real fan ? come ons seriously lol go see all my comment and you will see i'm a fan of a lot of thing about her. but the ARTPOP era ? not a big fan. If i were here during the BTWB era i would probably be the biggest fan of her here believe me So...you signed up to a Gaga fanboard during an era that you strongly disliked and decided to critcize that era everyday for months? What fun is in that, unless you are a troll getting their thrill on with dragging Gaga? Look at it this way. What if a hardcore Gaga stan signed up to MadonnaNation in a few months from now when Madonna released her new album because they disliked it so much? What if then they didn't just express their opinion and move on, but continued to criticize Madonna's current era EVERY day, several times a day, for MONTHS? This Gaga stan made multiple negative comments everyday about Madonna, her album, her singles, her videos, her tour, her look and her personal life choices for close to a year. Then, this Gaga stan claimed that "they liked Madonna during the ______ era, though, and that they would have been a huge fan if they were on MadonnaNation during that era". How well do you think that would go over at MadonnaNation? Do you think that the Madonna stans would look at that person as a troll? Do you think that the Madonna stans would tire of the constant, day in and day out, negativity from this Gaga stan? Do you think the M stans would wonder WHY the Gaga stan was there everyday, just to criticize the current era and almost everything about Madonna? Edited July 17, 2014 by rarigoes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) I can't at everyone who thinks that fans don't have an impact on sales. And obviously people outside of the GP (I'm not saying a lot but definately some) heard about the scandal. And like I said. MADONNA NEEDS INTEREST. SOURCE? GAGA. INTEREDT = SUCCESS. GAGA = IMPACT ON ALBUM SALES = IMPACT ON TOUR. THEREFORE GAGA IMPACTED ON THE ALBUM AND INDIRECTLY ON THE TOUR. Gosh. This isn't hard to grasp. Talking about gaga = success? It wasn't a big thing in the real world, just a few interviews and dramatic fans. Edited July 17, 2014 by Jjang Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houdini 103 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 So...you signed up to a Gaga fanboard during an era that you strongly disliked and decided to critcize that era everyday for months? What fun is in that, unless you are a troll getting their thrill on with dragging Gaga? Look at it this way. What if a hardcore Gaga stan signed up to MadonnaNation in a few months from now when Madonna released her new album because they disliked it so much? What if then they didn't just express their opinion and move on, but continued to criticize Madonna's current era EVERY day, several times a day, for MONTHS? This Gaga stan made multiple negative comments everyday about Madonna, her album, her singles, her videos, her tour, her look and her personal life choices for close to a year. Then, this Gaga stan claimed that "they liked Madonna during the ______ era, though, and that they would have been a huge fan if they were on MadonnaNation during that era". How well do you think that would go over at MadonnaNation? Do you think that the Madonna stans would look at that person as a troll? Do you think that the Madonna stans would tire of the constant, day in and day out, negativity from this Gaga stan? Do you think the M stans would wonder WHY the Gaga stan was there everyday, just to criticize the current era and almost everything about Madonna? such a big text for nothing. I like some thing in ARTPOP era but overall i didn't like it same for madonna and her mdna era, a lot of fans hated it too but subscribe to a forum i didn't know we can subscribe to a forum only when you like the current era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani328 321 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) when a person is not blind and not agree with all gaga does he's not a real fan ? come ons seriously lol go see all my comment and you will see i'm a fan of a lot of thing about her. but the ARTPOP era ? not a big fan. If i were here during the BTWB era i would probably be the biggest fan of her here believe me You don't have to agree with everything she does. We will all have different opinions, but you are always bias when it comes to Madonna and Gaga, but you claim to be a fan of both. I'm a big Beyonce and Gaga fan, but I don't feel the need to tear Beyonce down to praise Gaga or vice versa. Many GGD are both Gaga/Madonna fans but I don't see them being bias all the time. They don't love everything she does. You say people discredit Madonna, which I don't think is fair at all because she has more than earned her dues, she doesn't have anything to prove, but how is discrediting Madonna any different from you saying Gaga hasn't made an impact on pop culture, her wearing a meat dress didn't mean anything, or going back and forth with people in the tour thread about her tour gross and attendance. Edited July 17, 2014 by Stefani328 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClapDown 0 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Guys, stop it Stop fighting Madonna is amazing. Gaga is amazing. +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houdini 103 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 You don't have to agree with everything she does. We will all have different opinions, but you are always bias when it comes to Madonna and Gaga, but you claim to be a fan of both. I'm a big Beyonce and Gaga fan, but I don't feel the need to tear Beyonce down to praise Gaga or vice versa. Many GGD are both Gaga/Madonna fans but I don't see them being bias all the time. They don't love everything she does. You say people discredit Madonna, which I don't think is fair at all because she has more than earned her dues, she doesn't have anything to prove, but how is discrediting Madonna any different from you saying Gaga hasn't made an impact on pop culture, her wearing a meat dress didn't mean anything, or going back and forth with people in the tour thread about her tour gross and attendance. i do said the meat dress was nothing, but i never said gaga didn't bring anything to pop culture, like come on don't put thing i didn't said seriously LOL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
high heeled fem 3 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Yaaaaassss. No lies detected. ****ing legend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 A personal attack to who exactly? The first to bring up Madonna was "one of you guys". And it is indeed bias. And again... (Just in case you missed it the first few times ) Gaga isn't entirely responsible for Madonna's success but the controversy Madonna cuased raised interest in her projects (tour + album) which = success. So it wasn't souly Gaga but Gaga was a sorta indirect reason for success. And if you weren't bias you'd look at it from a negative (directed to Madonna) and a positive way. Kinda like a pros and cons list. But you only seem to think that Madonna got all that interest by herself. You're kidding right? Why would she need gaga when she had the superbowl with hundred million viewers? lol, you need to stop the delusion; gaga was only a small part of the whole MDNA tour controversy. And she doesn't need controversy at all; Sticky and sweet tour says hello! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 such a big text for nothing. I like some thing in ARTPOP era but overall i didn't like it same for madonna and her mdna era, a lot of fans hated it too but subscribe to a forum i didn't know we can subscribe to a forum only when you like the current era. You didn't answer the question. How would Madonna fans feel towards a Gaga fan who joined MadonnaNation during an era they disliked and left negative comments every day for months? Would they tire of the negativity? Would they think that person was a troll? How do you think that would go over woth the Madonna stans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 You don't have to agree with everything she does. We will all have different opinions, but you are always bias when it comes to Madonna and Gaga, but you claim to be a fan of both. I'm a big Beyonce and Gaga fan, but I don't feel the need to tear Beyonce down to praise Gaga or vice versa. Many GGD are both Gaga/Madonna fans but I don't see them being bias all the time. They don't love everything she does. You say people discredit Madonna, which I don't think is fair at all because she has more than earned her dues, she doesn't have anything to prove, but how is discrediting Madonna any different from you saying Gaga hasn't made an impact on pop culture, her wearing a meat dress didn't mean anything, or going back and forth with people in the tour thread about her tour gross and attendance. This and the constant back and forth over album numbers is what really shows the intent behind the participation on this forum! I'm not a big fan of Katy Perry this era, but I can't imagine joining her fanforum to bash her every single day! What's the purpose in that and what would that say about me? Who does that and WHY? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Talking about gaga = success? It wasn't a big thing in the real world, just a few interviews and dramatic fans. Gaga was huge at that time and if another celebrity mentioning her in such a rude way raises interest. I've explained this but I guess you wanna play the ignorance game. And again... Fans keep celebrities relevant. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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