destructivelove 563 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Sending an irrelevant gif because you're wrong. Try harder. HAHA TRUTH. MTE. Can't come up with a logical and well thought out response..? Why not just send a random irrelevant sassy bandwagon gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koala 3 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 The most Underrated album ever is True Romance tho AP is full of flaws http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9VGd26Gfo (the tracks after 'Lock You Up' aren't on the album btw just unreleased material) OMG STAN FOR MY FAVOURITE ALBUM On Topic: I also think that AP is so underrated. It's like everything gets better every album Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
destructivelove 563 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I'm wrong? You called ARTPOP bubblegum pop LOL ... Do you even know what that is? EDM and Bubblegum pop? That tells me that you know nothing about pop music ... You can dislike it and that's fair and you're entitled to it but don't sh*t on it without anything to support your drag, at least something better than that ... But ok I don't like fighting with people so case closed ... Enjoy it or don't I don't really care ...ARTPOP isn't even an "edm album"...Atleast no more than all her other work could LOOSELY be called "edm" I'm tired of people making it, as a whole, to be excessively more edm influenced than her previous works. Aura? yes...MJH? yes.... Swine? Dated but yes. JND/Fashion!/Dope/applause/gypsy/s-xxx dreams/GUY/DWUW/MANiCURE..? NO. they are just pop songs with heavy beats. Heavy beats don't make something EDM...dance/synth pop however?..yes! No different than what she's always been doing. Just because you call a cow a pig...doesn't make it a pig. And just because she called ARTPOP an EDM/"gay Chicago trap" album, doesn't make it that. The fact that you think ARTPOP (speaking to fans in general, not just targeting you) would be considered an edm album tells me that YOU are the ones who obviously "knows nothing about pop music". Had she realeased something along the lines of Zedd's Clarity this would be a different convo. This is DANCE POP. The same stuff she's being making for years. If you want to technically align all of her past work as "EDM", then that's a different story. Regardless your argument is, at the core, invalid, b***chy and plain rude. You don't have to cut up on a fan just because they have a difference of opinion. And you OBVIOUSLY "DO" in fact "care" since you took the time to scrutinize someone with a difference of thought. The whole world doesn't think like you hun. And just by saying that you "don't care" after you take the time to care, doesn't make you look any more mature and "above" it. Drop the attitude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills 446 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Commercial underperformance doesn't equate or translate to being underrated. Being disliked or even being indifferent also doesn't make one as underrated. In fact, there are instances where relatively less commercially successfully albums are being praised to the heavens while some of the commercially successful ones are being played down by the fans and the critics alike. Hence, we cannot really just label an album which under-performed compared to her previous releases to be underrated. its reviews were okay. Its sales and chart peaks were rather decent for a regular 4th major album from a pop star. This album is also seen very highly by the majority of this fan base, constantly beating TF, Gaga's most successful album, in terms of album preference, well at least that's what the polls and countless "rank Gaga's albums" threads here in GGD say. Also, it's FAR from being the most underrated album ever, either by Gaga or by any artist for that matter. The "most underrated album ever" wouldn't be discussed by millions of people or be praised by some of the mainstream media for us, at this day and age, to even talk about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I agree with the OP. The album is a masterpiece, imo. It is underrated because several factors came together to cause a loss of Gaga's popularity in general. But I believe this loss is temporary. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girrr 1,086 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I have to say I'm surprised the music didn't stick with her casual listeners or the GP. On the other hand, TFM might just be her best work, but had she given it..say, 5 more tracks, I'm not sure. That album is perfection because she didn't give it room for filler or failure. She knew what she wanted then, and I'm not saying she doesn't know now. She wants different things from her music from album to album. She wants it to say different things, which is probably why she gives some songs multiple meanings. Gaga has a lot to say; she's not as hidden "behind the aura" as she was during TFM. She wants to have a voice, and it can't be expressed through 8 tracks. Maybe some people think ARTPOP or even Born This Way have a few unnecessary tracks that they don't like. But Gaga put those songs on the albums for a reason. This album helped heal her, and it brought her happiness. I defend ARTPOP, not because it spoke to me the way Born This Way's message did. I defend it because it healed the woman who healed me, and I can see such a deep passion and gratitude she has for this album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadesOfCool 1 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 ARTPOP is not underrated, it's not a masterpiece and it's not her best album. It's the worst era but not her worst album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaXian 25 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 ARTPOP isn't even an "edm album"...Atleast no more than all her other work could LOOSELY be called "edm" I'm tired of people making it, as a whole, to be excessively more edm influenced than her previous works. Aura? yes...MJH? yes.... Swine? Dated but yes. JND/Fashion!/Dope/applause/gypsy/s-xxx dreams/GUY/DWUW/MANiCURE..? NO. they are just pop songs with heavy beats. Heavy beats don't make something EDM...dance/synth pop however?..yes! No different than what she's always been doing. Just because you call a cow a pig...doesn't make it a pig. And just because she called ARTPOP an EDM/"gay Chicago trap" album, doesn't make it that. The fact that you think ARTPOP (speaking to fans in general, not just targeting you) would be considered an edm album tells me that YOU are the ones who obviously "knows nothing about pop music". Had she realeased something along the lines of Zedd's Clarity this would be a different convo. This is DANCE POP. The same stuff she's being making for years. If you want to technically align all of her past work as "EDM", then that's a different story. Regardless your argument is, at the core, invalid, b***chy and plain rude. You don't have to cut up on a fan just because they have a difference of opinion. And you OBVIOUSLY "DO" in fact "care" since you took the time to scrutinize someone with a difference of thought. The whole world doesn't think like you hun. And just by saying that you "don't care" after you take the time to care, doesn't make you look any more mature and "above" it. Drop the attitude You could just have said that you didn't agree with me LOL ... But the Irony of your reply is the fact that I never said the album was completely EDM but had a high EDM and electronic touch to it ... and that is why my opinion was opposed to someone else' whose opinion was that ARTPOP was bubblegum pop? You don't have to be a genius when it comes to music genres to know that ARTPOP and Bubblegum pop does not go in the same sentence ... Again, like I said you can dislike ARTPOP but if you're gonna sh*t on the album make sure you have something substantial to support your drag ... At least something better than "basic" and "bubblegum pop" because ARTPOP is neither ... Dated or not ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 this. There was no cohesion or central theme really. It bounced around so much. And I'm sick and tired of everyone getting so defensive and saying the theme "could mean anything". That WAS the biggest cop out and easiest way for her to basically say "we didn't spend enough time actually trying to make a theme so here's a bunch of random songs" (not saying the songs themselves are bad,..except for the dated production) ...she lives for the applause...and can do what she wants................oh and btw she's a power bottom..? But I believe there was a central theme though... It's hinted in the title like all her other albums... Bringing art into pop. It was done throughout the entire era. That was what is was mainly about. Fans who say "it could mean anything :rip:" are the ones who serve the cop out. I know a bunch of people who've actually took the time to look into this album. But I believe that it was mainly Gaga just wanting to put art into her pop or pop culture. It was done throughout the era so that makes it the central theme, right? And the "ARTPOP could mean anything" I believe is meant to be say it's how one percieves it. She is doing ARTPOP and once you understand ARTPOP I think you should ask "How does this apply to me?" Like with all her other albums. Like in BTW the song... Does it apply to one because one is gay? One is a minority race? That's your Born This Way. Same with ARTPOP. And I think there could've been a nicer way to get what you wanted to say across btw. Just sayin'. :ohwell: ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownlessking 158 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Eh, it's not "filled with hits" and it's not "radio-friendly", otherwise we would have had hits being played on the radio... It's not underrated. I like ARTPOP, but it's too incoherent to be praised any higher than it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarfall 3,723 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Unnecessary shade... Who was I shading? Because I didn't intend to shade anyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthorn 37 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Eh, it's not "filled with hits" and it's not "radio-friendly", otherwise we would have had hits being played on the radio... Radio has absolutely nothing to do with the music. The way songs are chosen for radio play doesn't bare much indication of what is good or bad. Majority would say that Britney Spears' Blackout was an album of hits but it gained no traction anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownlessking 158 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Radio has absolutely nothing to do with the music. The way songs are chosen for radio play doesn't bare much indication of what is good or bad. Majority would say that Britney Spears' Blackout was an album of hits but it gained no traction anywhere. I'm just saying because the OP said it was full of radio-friendly songs, which it clearly wasn't as we never heard them on the radio. If they were THAT radio-friendly, they would have been picked up. But I'm definitely not saying that that equates to quality. The songs not being radio-friendly isn't a bad thing, it means Gaga isn't following generic trends, so I'm proud of her ^__^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Eh, it's not "filled with hits" and it's not "radio-friendly", otherwise we would have had hits being played on the radio... It's not underrated. I like ARTPOP, but it's too incoherent to be praised any higher than it was. Are you serious? The album only had 2 singles. The first 2 did well and DWUW was well received. The reason we don't have many hits is because G.U.Y. Wasn't promoted and because it flopped interscope just pulled the pluf out of fear. I swear if all the singles got the promotion which all the BTW singles got they would've been hits. So that point is invalid. And ARTPOP does deserve praise but ofc they are the fans who base somethings worth on the number of hits. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownlessking 158 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Are you serious? The album only had 2 singles. The first 2 did well and DWUW was well received. The reason we don't have many hits is because G.U.Y. Wasn't promoted and because it flopped interscope just pulled the pluf out of fear. I swear if all the singles got the promotion which all the BTW singles got they would've been hits. So that point is invalid. And ARTPOP does deserve praise but ofc they are the fans who base somethings worth on the number of hits. Yes, am I not allowed to have a personal subjective opinion? Okay. In my opinion I don't think that the album is filled with hits. That isn't saying that the quality overall is bad, but that the public won't buy the songs to make them hits because they're not as generic as the songs being played on the radio. That's the point that I was trying to make. I never said it doesn't deserve praise, I said that it doesn't deserve to be praised any higher than it was. It was a number one album and loads of fans love it, but I don't think it deserves to hailed as a highlight of her career, because, in my opinion, it simply isn't. It is still good, though, and I like it. (Please read what I actually wrote next time before paraphrasing me, hahah). And if the last comment was referring to me, that's not the case. As I've said twice now I LIKE ARTPOP, but there are issues with the album. Intentional or not, my subjective taste feels as though it's too incoherent (in terms of sound, vocals and production), to be hailed as her greatest piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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