Noam Zioni 1,201 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDj9u8eJoUU Maybe this video is 2 years old, but this is what happens almost everyday in southern-Israel. Lucia, you offered a movie about the situation, here's the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4s11RsLL_A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 What is so childish in calling peoples haters, Gaga also calls people haters. Everybody here is using "spilling the tea". You remind me of Hanin Zuabbi. As if calling me Hasbara troll more than 3 times is not childish Please don't embarrass yourself Gaga is a pop star, her stans/fans are using that kind of language when they talk about Katy Perry's copying or Madonna; this is real life, real war, blockade, siege, opression, murder, stealing, dehumanizing etc. nothing funny or amusing about this topic. You do have Hasbara manual, it leaked, and you have same phrases: "educate yourself", "don't embarrass yourself", "anti-Israel means anti-semitic", "hamas this, hamas that, deliberately, human shields" etc. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDj9u8eJoUU Maybe this video is 2 years old, but this is what happens almost everyday in southern-Israel. and is this changing anything? Israel is doing x10 worse and Palestine doesn't have an iron dome, let's not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Again about the rockets... http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/5624401 6) This current Gaza conflict began with Hamas rocket fire on 30 June 2014 Times of Israel: "Hamas operatives were behind a large volley of rockets which slammed into Israel Monday morning, the first time in years the Islamist group has directly challenged the Jewish state, according to Israeli defense officials.. The security sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, assessed that Hamas had probably launched the barrage in revenge for an Israeli airstrike several hours earlier which killed one person and injured three more.. Hamas hasn't fired rockets into Israel since Operation Pillar of Defense ended in November 2012." The Nation: "During ten days of Operation Brother's Keeper in the West Bank [before the start of the Gaza conflict], Israel arrested approximately 800 Palestinians without charge or trial, killed nine civilians and raided nearly 1,300 residential, commercial and public buildings. Its military operation targeted Hamas members released during the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange in 2011." 7) Hamas has never stopped firing rockets into Israel Jewish Daily Forward: "Hamas hadn't fired a single rocket since [2012 Gaza conflict], and had largely suppressed fire by smaller jihadi groups. Rocket firings, averaging 240 per month in 2007, dropped to five per month in 2013." International Crisis Group: "Fewer rockets were fired from Gaza in 2013 than in any year since 2001, and nearly all those that were fired between the November 2012 ceasefire and the current crisis were launched by groups other than Hamas; the Israeli security establishment testified to the aggressive anti-rocket efforts made by the new police force Hamas established specifically for that purpose.. As Israel (and Egypt) rolled back the 2012 understandings - some of which were implemented spottily at best - so too did Hamas roll back its anti rocket efforts." FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Zioni 1,201 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Gaga is a pop star, her stans/fans are using that kind of language when they talk about Katy Perry's copying or Madonna; this is real life, real war, blockade, siege, opression, murder, stealing, dehumanizing etc. nothing funny or amusing about this topic. You do have Hasbara manual, it leaked, and you have same phrases: "educate yourself", "don't embarrass yourself", "anti-Israel means anti-semitic", "hamas this, hamas that, deliberately, human shields" etc. I use these phrases everyday, as my usual language (spilling tea etc.) Did I say it's funny? Maybe if me and my friends here uses these phrases (educate yourself etc.) something is really true about it? How lovely. Again in 100th time, you put words into my mouth. When did I say being Anti-Israel means Anti-Semitic? Hamas is responsible for all the mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 What is so childish in calling peoples haters, Gaga also calls people haters. Everybody here is using "spilling the tea". You remind me of Hanin Zuabbi. As if calling me Hasbara troll more than 3 times is not childish Please don't embarrass yourself dude, if there is anyone embarrassing in this thread, its you posting and IDF blog as reliable? really? calling everyone haters and childish stan war stuff? plus being unable to refute the facts lego has presented, just calling him a hater and saying all he posts is propaganda (when again, your super source is an IDF blog) at least Dolev tried to present facts, he didnt just hide under the "ohhh everyone is a hater" bs and again, posting an IDF blog as a neutral reliable source? im sorry but thats the most stupid move ive seen in GGD, you lost all credibility there, not to mention a bunch of pages ago when you responded to a lebanese or something telling him "i dont blame you, you are raised to hate us" just go to sleep, you are just embarrassing yourself AND your country, and I guess all you are going to do is call me a hater right? because thats the only kinder garden attack that can come out of your head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I use these phrases everyday, as my usual language (spilling tea etc.) Did I say it's funny? Maybe if me and my friends here uses these phrases (educate yourself etc.) something is really true about it? How lovely. Again in 100th time, you put words into my mouth. When did I say being Anti-Israel means Anti-Semitic? Hamas is responsible for all the mess. I was talking about what is in that manual, and some of it is often repeated by Dolev, you and some others. And again with last sentence you kind of prove I'm right. There is no Hamas in West Bank, why is your army killing people, kids there? Recent victim, 11 year old boy. Why? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Zioni 1,201 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 dude, if there is anyone embarrassing in this thread, its you posting and IDF blog as reliable? really? calling everyone haters and childish stan war stuff? plus being unable to refute the facts lego has presented, just calling him a hater and saying all he posts is propaganda (when again, your super source is an IDF blog) at least Dolev tried to present facts, he didnt just hide under the "ohhh everyone is a hater" bs and again, posting an IDF blog as a neutral reliable source? im sorry but thats the most stupid move ive seen in GGD, you lost all credibility there, not to mention a bunch of pages ago when you responded to a lebanese or something telling him "i dont blame you, you are raised to hate us" just go to sleep, you are just embarrassing yourself AND your country, and I guess all you are going to do is call me a hater right? because thats the only kinder garden attack that can come out of your head Oh you are right! How could I forget? I gotta go to the kinder garden tomorrow, I'm going to sleep! What is your point in comparing Dolev to me all the time? You're saying the IDF isn't reliable? pff lol what?? Most reliable source ever. lego doesn't present facts, most of it are lies... And if you bothered to read, I already said I used the IDF Blog as an informal site for all the crimes the Hamas does, and NOT as a neutral site Oh Aakam, only if you knew how wrong you are.. I was talking about what is in that manual, and some of it is often repeated by Dolev, you and some others. And again with last sentence you kind of prove I'm right. There is no Hamas in West Bank, why is your army killing people, kids there? Recent victim, 11 year old boy. Why? What manual And show me something that proves what you said about the west bank. And not a Pro-Palstinian website as usual please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Zioni 1,201 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I live in Dubai, i honestly think it's better than anywhere in Israel. and 'IDF will ensure it' proves that you're ok with all those people being killed it shouldn't even called IDF since it's not Defense, it's just attack Didn't you say you live in Lebanon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Didn't you say you live in Lebanon? I'm lebanese, I live in dubai and why are you re-quoting a post that was made like 16 days ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 You're saying the IDF isn't reliable? pff lol what?? Most reliable source ever. lego doesn't present facts, most of it are lies... Really solid arguments you have there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 What manual And show me something that proves what you said about the west bank. And not a Pro-Palstinian website as usual please. http://www.sott.net/signs/hasbara.pdf http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2009/07/10/the-israel-projects-secret-hasbara-handbook-exposed/ The first chapter, 25 Rules for Effective Communication opens with: The first step to winning trust and friends for Israel is showing that you care about peace for BOTH Israelis and Palestinians and, in particular, a better future for every child. Indeed, the sequence of your conversation is critical and you must start with empathy for BOTH sides first. Open your conversation with strong proven messages such as: “Israel is committed to a better future for everyone – Israelis and Palestinians alike. Israel wants the pain and suffering to end, and is committed to working with the Palestinians toward a peaceful, diplomatic solution where both sides can have a better future. Let this be a time of hope and opportunity for both the Israeli and the Palestinian people.†You don't even follow what is happening in West Bank? http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/trigger-happy-israeli-army-and-police-use-reckless-force-west-bank-2014-02-27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsOJVCeCV0I FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Over 10,000 Turn Out to Tel Aviv Peace Rally http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/08/17/over-10000-turn-out-tel-aviv-peace-rally More than ten thousand of Israelis turned out Saturday night in Tel Aviv demanding peace talks with the Palestinian Authority. The peaceful rally was the largest demonstration in Israel since it launched operation "Protective Edge on July 8, an offensive that has seen at least 1,980 Palestinian deaths and 67 on the Israeli side. It was organized by the progressive Meretz party and Peace Now, an activist group opposed to Jewish settlement building on occupied territory. Protesters also expressed anger at the Netanyahu government, chanting “Bibi, go home!†The Jerusalem Post reported: Meretz leader MK Zehava Gal-On said Netanyahu should quit because he failed in his attempts to bring quiet to the South, despite having a “blank check†to act for five years. She said Israel would do better to lift the blockade on Gaza, end the occupation of Palestinian territories and return to negotiations that extend beyond a cease-fire. “You could have achieved the framework you are willing to accept now without paying the price of 64 dead soldiers and the deaths of civilians,†Gal-On told Netanyahu. The crowd shouted “Bibi go home.†...Against the backdrop of the Tel Aviv Municipality building, lit up as an enormous Israeli flag, people carried signs reading, “Jews and Arabs refuse to be enemies,†and “When there is no peace, war comes.†From the Times of Israel: Author David Grossman addressed the crowd, and said that Israelis “are losing our home to fanaticism and internal hatred.†“Dangerous movements are coming to pass in Israel because of the despair, the anxiety, nationalism and racism erupting all at once,†he said. “Not one word of condemnation has been uttered by the prime minister. It will be very difficult to rein in the dark forces. I’m concerned that the leaders enjoyed seeing the Left held hostage, but this tide will turn against them when they appear too moderate. These processes and phenomena will unfortunately turn Israel into a radical, militant, xenophobic cult, isolated and ostracized.†Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Zioni 1,201 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Really solid arguments you have there Thank you I'm lebanese, I live in dubai and why are you re-quoting a post that was made like 16 days ago Your info in your profile says "Lebanon" is your country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Thank you Your info in your profile says "Lebanon" is your country because it is sis I'm Lebanese but I LIVE in dubai does living in Dubai make the UAE my country? no it doesn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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