hmm 979 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 No, it's Haaretz, Israeli media source or Israeli journalists, and if it's from twitter it's from verified accounts of journalists from the West who are also witnesses of what is happening in Gaza. I think I'm gonna put you on *ignore. Bye. Majority of your sources are twitter though Tbh, I think the suffering of so many Palestinians is awful, but this blatantly anti-Israel and generalising Israelis and the IDF is counter productive and not helpful at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Majority of your sources are twitter though Tbh, I think the suffering of so many Palestinians is awful, but this blatantly anti-Israel and generalising Israelis and the IDF is counter productive and not helpful at all Most of them are twitter accounts of official organizations and journalists, so it's quite reliable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Majority of your sources are twitter though Tbh, I think the suffering of so many Palestinians is awful, but this blatantly anti-Israel and generalising Israelis and the IDF is counter productive and not helpful at all I'm not generalising, I posted videos and photos of Israelis who are pro peace and who are publicly condemning Israeli war crimes. So that already tells you I'm not against Jews as people, race, members of religion. I posted video of son of IDF general and ex soldiers talking about their war crimes. You see, they are not all the same. And again, if I post from twitter about something which needs source, it's usually from verified accounts of journalists not just some random people. And yeah I posted also from parody accounts but those things don't really need verifications, they are just opinions. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I'm not generalising, I posted videos and photos of Israelis who are pro peace and who are publicly condemning Israeli war crimes. So that already tells you I'm not against Jews as people, race, members of religion. I posted video of son of IDF general and ex soldiers talking about their war crimes. You see, they are not all the same. And again, if I post from twitter about something which needs source, it's usually from verified accounts of journalists not just some random people. Israelis =/= Jews as a starting point though. You can be Israeli and non Jewish and vice versa. But your "IDF fashion" post was generalising and vague, you didn't aim it at specific extremists. Even if you did, it would be irrelevant to the crisis because a minority of people will always be like that no matter what the state (see Northern Ireland, you posted a picture of it recently) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Israelis =/= Jews as a starting point though. You can be Israeli and non Jewish and vice versa. But your "IDF fashion" post was generalising and vague, you didn't aim it at specific extremists. Even if you did, it would be irrelevant to the crisis because a minority of people will always be like that no matter what the state (see Northern Ireland, you posted a picture of it recently) Yeah but Israel is created as a "Jewish state" and they want to keep it that way. Well I don't think it's irrelevant, people need to see the hate on their side too. It's not only that they're bombing children, they seem to be damn proud of it too. Too many incidents happened in that army, like when they shot 13 year old girl without a reason and the commander who did it was not punished. I think of them as terrorists and that is my right. Palestinians are not human to them. I don't know if it's minority but it seems to be a trend and in my opinion these kind of people are not mentally alright and shouldn't even serve the army. http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/dead-palestinian-babies-and-bombed-mosques-idf-fashion-2009-1.272500?v=B14F26D8678C46643A7F5982C6B8B971 FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Yeah but Israel is created as a "Jewish state" and they want to keep it that way. Well I don't think it's irrelevant, people need to see the hate on their side too. It's not only that they're bombing children, they seem to be damn proud of it too. Too many incidents happened in that army, like when they shot 13 year old girl without a reason and the commander who did it was not punished. I think of them as terrorists and that is my right. Palestinians are not human to them. I don't know if it's minority but it seems to be a trend and in my opinion these kind of people are not mentally alright and shouldn't even serve the army.http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/dead-palestinian-babies-and-bombed-mosques-idf-fashion-2009-1.272500?v=B14F26D8678C46643A7F5982C6B8B971 I don't understand that at all though, (to be really blunt) there's ****ed up individuals everywhere, but there was nothing stated in your posts that it was pointing out those individuals. I know the Northern Ireland situation is completely different but even today we have individuals and groups who are completely opposed and hateful to the other side, with almost weekly or fortnightly attacks, but it hasn't affected our peace settlement. I don't see why Israel and Palestine's hopefully eventual settlement should be any different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I don't understand that at all though, (to be really blunt) there's ****ed up individuals everywhere, but there was nothing stated in your posts that it was pointing out those individuals. I know the Northern Ireland situation is completely different but even today we have individuals and groups who are completely opposed and hateful to the other side, with almost weekly or fortnightly attacks, but it hasn't affected our peace settlement. I don't see why Israel and Palestine's hopefully eventual settlement should be any different. I think that's exactly wht lego aims to show those posts. Have you seen what some pro Israel post? misleading and some were even proven to be fake! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Zioni 1,201 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I think that's exactly wht lego aims to show those posts. Have you seen what some pro Israel post? misleading and some were even proven to be fake! Give me one example of a fake post Do you support murdering 450+ children to ''defend yourself''? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4-kWMb2zpI Find me ''much worse'' fashion, with sniper aiming at Israeli women, children; promoting rape etc. and it has to be worn by units, not just 1-2 individuals. I'm waiting. Nobody uses it in the IDF I can promise it to you.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I think that's exactly wht lego aims to show those posts. Have you seen what some pro Israel post? misleading and some were even proven to be fake! Yeah, but those are exactly that, individuals, as opposed to entire nations and armed forces I know of specific examples from the other side too, but it shouldn't really be a tit-for-tat argument Give me one example of a fake post Yours regarding the drones for one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Zioni 1,201 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Yeah but Israel is created as a "Jewish state" and they want to keep it that way. Well I don't think it's irrelevant, people need to see the hate on their side too. It's not only that they're bombing children, they seem to be damn proud of it too. Too many incidents happened in that army, like when they shot 13 year old girl without a reason and the commander who did it was not punished. I think of them as terrorists and that is my right. Palestinians are not human to them. I don't know if it's minority but it seems to be a trend and in my opinion these kind of people are not mentally alright and shouldn't even serve the army. http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/dead-palestinian-babies-and-bombed-mosques-idf-fashion-2009-1.272500?v=B14F26D8678C46643A7F5982C6B8B971 Proud of it? How did you get it? That's a stupid thing to say.. If Palestinians aren't human to us, why so we serve to them electricity and other thing throughout all the years? Answer me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Give me one example of a fake post Nobody uses it in the IDF I can promise it to you.. Did you serve your army? How can you promise that when they openly talk about it?G., a soldier in an elite unit who has done a snipers course, explained that, "it's a type of bonding process, and also it's well known that anyone who is a sniper is messed up in the head. Our shirts have a lot of double entendres, for example: 'Bad people with good aims.' Every group that finishes a course puts out stuff like that." When are these shirts worn? G. "These are shirts for around the house, for jogging, in the army. Not for going out. Sometimes people will ask you what it's about." http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/dead-palestinian-babies-and-bombed-mosques-idf-fashion-2009-1.272500?v=B14F26D8678C46643A7F5982C6B8B971 FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Zioni 1,201 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 fff SIS 1. Israel has taken the lands, stole, slaughtered, and still humiliates Palestine, HOW THE HELL IS ISRAEL NOT AN ENEMY 2. Give me sources for the planes 3. Israel WANTS to kill palestinians sis. I'd like to remind you that all the people in positions of power came from previous jewish organisations which wanted to implement a jewish country where Palestine was so it did do some terrorist stuff too. 4. I live in ****ing lebanon, you're criminal state ****ing attacked mine, and Bombed it many times through the night and I had to live through that when i was 5, I know how the situation is also: RIGHT?? Oh, now I got it. All the hate is because you live in Lebanon... Lebanon isn't an enemy for us either, the Hizballah is.. Are you talking about the 2 wars? As if you didn't shoot a thing to Israel in the war, in the middle of the night, and also sent terrorists that bombing themselves in public places into Israel.. I was 8, a kid as well. No point in your thing since Lebanon attacked first. Israel never attacks first, you know why? Because we want peace. AND! The Hizballah is building tunnels to north Israel now... Yes, to kill people, citizens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Oh, now I got it. All the hate is because you live in Lebanon... Lebanon isn't an enemy for us either, the Hizballah is.. Are you talking about the 2 wars? As if you didn't shoot a thing to Israel in the war, in the middle of the night, and also sent terrorists that bombing themselves in public places into Israel.. I was 8, a kid as well. No point in your thing since Lebanon attacked first. Israel never attacks first, you know why? Because we want peace. AND! The Hizballah is building tunnels to north Israel now... Yes, to kill people, citizens. Ooh, can I just publicly apologise, I looked it up and found that Hamas does in fact have drones So yeah, sorry http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/07/israel-says-shoots-down-drone-from-gaza-20147148117399570.html This article as proof of them existing I guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Proud of it? How did you get it? That's a stupid thing to say.. If Palestinians aren't human to us, why so we serve to them electricity and other thing throughout all the years? Answer me. Well when you wear a shirt with pregnant woman in muslim clothing and sniper aiming at her belly and you have 450+ dead children, I take it as being proud at what you do. What other thing? That is your country's way of showing to the world how you are "the good guys", give them electricity but bomb their power plant, control what they eat, but not to starve too much, cut both electricity and water as a collective punishment. Shoot at their fishermen, bring down their economy. Very humane. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Zioni 1,201 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Did you serve your army? How can you promise that when they openly talk about it? http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/dead-palestinian-babies-and-bombed-mosques-idf-fashion-2009-1.272500?v=B14F26D8678C46643A7F5982C6B8B971 I didn't serve yet, but I know many people who serve now, and served years ago. Haaretz is an anti-Zionist paper, they hate us as you hate us. Nobody use these shirts in the army. Stop being delusional Ooh, can I just publicly apologise, I looked it up and found that Hamas does in fact have drones So yeah, sorry http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/07/israel-says-shoots-down-drone-from-gaza-20147148117399570.html This article as proof of them existing I guess :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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