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Why Is It Hard For Some To Understand and Admit The Decline of Gaga?


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mariomania1234

It's not like she can't bounce back. You have to think about the circumstances that went down behind the scenes this era.

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Slayer

Funny how Gaga's "awful sales" are pretty much equal to her contemporaries' peaks. How awk for them.  :ohwell:

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aaronyoji

because decline is all about perspective. yeah its quite obvious shes not the new it girl, shes not the most popular anymore either, but then to relate that to any wrong doing she "may" have done is ludicrous. its an inevitable decline when you are a polarizing pop artist who has penetrated pop culture as long as she has. there's no correlation to a decline in her writing abilities and the quality of her work. sure i dont think this era has served the best work at all, but the subject of her quality and the subject of her popularity have no impact on each other, despite this fanbase's consensus that "oh, shes less popular, therefore she must be releasing poor work" because quality is not whats always celebrated at the top of the charts, or celebrated in the minds of the mainstream. 

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Allison M

So we need to discuss the fact that Gaga is selling less albums/singles than she used to again?

How boring.

This. Get over it already.

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VforVendetta

AMA performance, those mean tweets about her past rivalries, Piano performance on Alan Carr, the one where she had that big black hat on...if G.U.Y got this much care it would have slayed so hard

It wouldn't. THe public never embraced the song, it would have done like Birthday or like Unconditionaly at best. I am not a fan of DWUW but the song did very well considering that it didn't have a video. For a Lady Gaga song the video is half the project, Gaga's videos are extremely important for her songs. 

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SMILE2NE1

The saddest thing is that she has little influence and cultural relevance amongst the general public whereas in 2009/2010 she was talked about by everyone. 

 

Her decline can be attributed to a string of bad decisions:

Alejandro Music Video (turned off the general public and sparked the comparison saga)

Born This Way (successful but the comparison hurt her aura of originality) 

Judas (comparison saga continues and rehash of Bad Romance as a bad choice)

TEOG (providing bad video meant that people were no longer interested in future MVs)

Y&I (boring single choice did nothing to revive the BTW era)

MTN (5 singles in < 1 year meant she was overexposed and people got sick of her)

 

Applause (good release but delayed too much unfortunately due to hip, a new generation sprang and people forgot her)

Venus (switching singles made her look disorganized)

DWUW (no video was the nail in the coffin) 

 

Along with this, since Alejandro, she has been continual hyper/promise maker but has only been a black hole of betrayals. She stopped working with Dada and professionals (self directing? really Gaga) and cancelling jobs like TEOG with Joseph Kahn. She never gives more than she promises, in fact because of her poor management she usually gives less than she promises. This is why people automatically expect her not to produce. Also her shock shtick got a lot of people tired. 

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Neptune

This is the kind of opinion I am looking for in this thread. Thanks.

y'all

 

So basically you opened a thread for all the negative posters to agree with you. Yey.

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Decline in sales and public interest? Sure, the numbers show it. And it has happened to every other celebrity in history. And most of them have also experienced a comeback to commercial success or relevancy one way or another, further showcasing the cycle of fame. With a great talent like Gaga, she'd obviously not be an exception. As others have already pointed out, one underperformance doesn't translate to the end of a career. For all we know, it could serve as a fuel to her drive for success, a motivation. 

 

And to answer the OP's question: there will always be dissenters to change. And that applies to everything else who has built a following - from politics to sports and of course to entertainment. Loyalty is the core of fandoms, for some it may become extreme. 

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destructivelove

What? No it's not hun. She's doing fine. Why is it so hard for people like this to accept that.

but yes...it is. Literally every one from my school/town who isn't a major gaga fan went because "gaga is back in town" and they know "how great of a concert she puts on". Literally half or more of the people I talked to hadn't even listened to ARTPOP once until they bought the tickets like a week before. And additionally almost EVERY ONE of them complained how her music has declined big time from TFM and Born This Way. "Why is it hard" for fans to "accept" that people who don't stan 24/7 still like her from her old hits. Most of them could give two ****s less about ARTPOP and didn't even know it existed until the tour besides Applause and DWDW
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LittleBoot

She isn't as big as she used to be, but that might not be such a bad thing. A lot of legendary pop stars have paid pretty heavy prices for extended fame and success (public meltdowns, loss of life from substance abuse, serious psychiatric problems, and broken relationships) and it may not be a price she's willing to pay. I wouldn't blame her if that were the case.

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Manul

You're on gagadaily.com
 

Easy as that. :lolgaga:

Seriously though, Gaga is doing fine. ARTPOP did fairly good. It wasn't Gaga's decline in fame but it was bad management that hurt this era. Albums either start big and then get slow or they start slow and then get massive. ARTPOP would have followed the later but as I said before, bad management. She should really work on her releases rate imo, she shouldn't be so slow.

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Mama Ru

I think the real question is why is it hard for some people to understand that all artists have ups and downs and not make such a big f***ing deal about it?

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The Professor

She's on the decline. Everyone knows that.

 

The real question is this the calm before the storm or is this the snuffing out of a candle that was once a fire.

 

 

Honestly, her next era all depends on the music, and you can't predict that stuff. The GP would totally be here for a hit song as i think they've been underexposed this era and aren't sick of her, some people may even want her back. 

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I haven't seen ANYBODY deny that she has declined in chart performance and sales.

 

So what kind of decline are you referring to OP?

 

Who is denying what decline?  

 

A decline in music quality?  Hmmmmm, that's pretty subjective, and I happen to love ARTPOP.  If ARTPOP is not as good as some previous album of her's, it's at least as good any other album released in 2013, for my tastes.  So, not really a decline there, but even if you think there is you can't say someone is in denial if they disagree.

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