Cody Draco 2,531 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 wish i had the patience to read all that This tbh. It wasn't always just the fans. The non-fans were interested in her during The Fame. The Fame Monster was successful because of the controversy. Borb This Way was successful because of the hype. ARTPOP isn:t as successful as its ancestors. But for me, it's a masterpiece. I'm always greatful for what she gives me. I will always love and support her. I still agree that fans aren't that active as they were in the BTW era. This. Pandering to chart success is what got us stuck with DWUW instead of Venus in the first place. Also people always have to make it a thing when i say Im a fan of Gaga. I try to keep my stanning private mostly. :/ prolly not the best promoter This and I'm not an annoying fan either constantly trying to shove her down people's throats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 The replies in this post are a great example of what I was talking about tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 As much as monsters want to 'promote' a song, if the music is not good enough for people to like it- ZERO effect. Gaga needs to deliver better music. Thats it. Only delusional people wont admit that the quality of her work went down. Going from pop perfection like Alejandro for example to songs like Venus, Swine etc. is such a downgrade And Gaga HAD the GP with The Fame Omg the bold part is so cringeworthy I could f--king die. I find she's only gone up. I mean I find a lot of The Fame annoying af. TFM also has some mess like Teeth. And I mean DITD is the most over produced song in her discography. Cringe worthy. I find Swine amazing! People are allowed to have f--king different opinions like when will this makes sense to you TFM stans! Gooooooooooddddddd! ARTPOP is better than TFM in my opinion. Am I delusional? NO. Are you delusional for not agreeing? NO. People can like different s--t omfg!!!!!!!!!!! :roll: On topic: It's true. The fans now only complain but they never wanna actually do anything and how is Gaga gonna succed if her fans are just trying to be managers instead of actually pushing her music foward? They can't be managers. It won't happen. So why waste time trying to be one? Ugh. And Gaga has the music good enough to get her far it's just that she needs us ("the outsiders") to help her. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Monsters aren't lazy. Every time something new comes out, we request + listen + watch nonstop. We do everything for her like we always have. How are we lazy? We may mope when Gaga's not around, but when she is, we raise her up like a higher being. She hasn't given us much of anything since the Venus/ DWUW mix-up minus GUY. Yet, we were promised so much more for the ARTPOP experience. If Gaga continues ARTPOP, you can bet we'll be there to make it successful. "Hasn't given us anything"?!?!?! How can you minus G.U.Y.? It was THE MOST expensive video of her career and seeing as she didn't promote it, it was obvious the video was made just for the amusement of fans. To keep b---hing from happening and it's clear that didn't work out. And what about all the crazy promotion she has done in the last year? 4 Mini concerts! How is Gaga to blame? I actually think no one is to blame. But to say Gaga has given us nothing since Venus/DWUW is one of the biggest lies ever told. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio 23,538 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 It's just a pop singer you guys, chill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idldte 2 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Read it, but not true. Fans just aren't passionate about her music anymore. She still writes decent music, but the music she writes is no where near as good as her older material. Fans were passionate about her older material. That's why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 Read it, but not true. Fans just aren't passionate about her music anymore. She still writes decent music, but the music she writes is no where near as good as her older material. Fans were passionate about her older material. That's why. See I think this is bull ****. Because 1 fans are constantly talking about how her work now is so much superior to TF / TFM because they were more basic and generic and how they would turn in their stan card if she ever went down that road again... so since she's making music so superior according to the fans shouldnt they be more passionate than they were before? This fanbase is constantly wanting one thing and then asking for another when they get what they ask for... Omg the bold part is so cringeworthy I could ****ing die. I find she's only gone up. I mean I find a lot of The Fame annoying af. TFM also has some mess like Teeth. And I mean DITD is the most over produced song in her discography. Cringe worthy. I find Swine amazing! People are allowed to have ****ing different opinions like when will this makes sense to you TFM stans! Gooooooooooddddddd! ARTPOP is better than TFM in my opinion. Am I delusional? NO. Are you delusional for not agreeing? NO. People can like different **** omfg!!!!!!!!!!! :roll: On topic: It's true. The fans now only complain but they never wanna actually do anything and how is Gaga gonna succed if her fans are just trying to be managers instead of actually pushing her music foward? They can't be managers. It won't happen. So why waste time trying to be one? Ugh. And Gaga has the music good enough to get her far it's just that she needs us ("the outsiders") to help her. I ****ing love you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idldte 2 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 See I think this is bull ****. Because 1 fans are constantly talking about how her work now is so much superior to TF / TFM because they were more basic and generic and how they would turn in their stan card if she ever went down that road again... so since she's making music so superior according to the fans shouldnt they be more passionate than they were before? This fanbase is constantly wanting one thing and then asking for another when they get what they ask for... Who has actually said that? No one. Make up more lies please. Nothing about TFM was basic or generic. It is not the same as TF. TFM was a work of art and her most successful era for a reason. Fans say everything new is better than the old. It's called hype. ARTPOP is a complete mess compared to TFM. What grammies has ARTPOP won her? None. If her new music is so much better then surely people would actually care, but they don't. The lead single was moderately successful, the second single couldn't even get a video out, and the third single completely tanked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleachella 2,932 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 ARTPOP is better than TFM in my opinion. Am I delusional? NO. Are you delusional for not agreeing? NO. People can like different **** :kara: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Why are we always talking about her success (or apparent lack of) this era? You can't blame the fans considering just how many things have screwed up for Gaga this era, it is never the fans fault. Although I love Gaga, she is an entertainer, that is her job. If she doesn't get the recognition you all think she wants then that is ultimately her issue, not ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Hoegan 1,018 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 she is boring to GP because she didn't have any noticeable reinvention ? since 2010 she's still that blond wierd girl with crazy outfits and stuff, making dance music... she became steady... she's not cool anymore... :( the only transition she had was from TF to TFM she changed her looks from plastic to kinda gothic, became dark from fun in music and behavior stared to shock even more since then, there was like no real change, she's still shocking(or not already?), still blond, still has crazy outfits, still has the same scheme for music videos, she reinvents her looks daily as she started in TFM era - now she doesn't have that one distinguishable look - she's "every icon" and people only remember her as TF Gaga - because that look lasted besides the music sound, that's the only change... but it's not enough IF she still wants to be on top... she doesn't have to tho, it's her choice, she has her fanbase already... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefamefatale 264 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Gen. pub did like her tho. 2008, 2009, some of 2010. Then it kinda died don't be a drag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 The general public has never LIKED Gaga.. they were intrigued by her and in most cases made fun of her. She's the girl with a dick and she wore a meat dress and she's worshipped by the gays and copied Madonna... That's been the GP opinion of Gaga but THE FANS were always there to silence them with their efforts to keep her music alive. If the MILLIONS of fans that used to go to bat for her still did the success controversey that this fanbase is consumed with would suddenly disappear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus 298 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Omg the bold part is so cringeworthy I could ****ing die. I find she's only gone up. I mean I find a lot of The Fame annoying af. TFM also has some mess like Teeth. And I mean DITD is the most over produced song in her discography. Cringe worthy. I find Swine amazing! People are allowed to have ****ing different opinions like when will this makes sense to you TFM stans! Gooooooooooddddddd! ARTPOP is better than TFM in my opinion. Am I delusional? NO. Are you delusional for not agreeing? NO. People can like different **** omfg!!!!!!!!!!! :roll: WHAT? Have you ever heard MTN, Hair, Applause? And the mess on TFM compared to the mess on BTW and ARTPOP is so little that you could not even see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 WHAT? Have you ever heard MTN, Hair, Applause? Those 3 songs are actually among my faves. DITD is very messy and the vocals are pretty... Errr but the song definately is overrated. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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