thathimerosguy 3 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 It just seems hypocritical I dont know. You dont celebrate one thing and after a sec you totally devalue it. ARTPOP is a journey.its a story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLuna 12,732 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 At first I thought it was weird, not exactly hypocritical but definitely contradictory, given that the songs are like both ends of the same spectrum, but in retrospect I think it was a conscious decision on Gaga's part to have both songs on the album, especially in that order. I think it would've been more hypocritical to include only MJH, a song which glamorizes d--gs when we all know Gaga has been through pretty tough times because of her d--g use. Dope was the perfect way to even things out, it's Gaga's way of saying "Look, d--gs can be fun for a while, but they can make you miserable as well". By having both songs on the album, she's basically acknowledging both the highs and the lows. And there's nothing hypocritical about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disneyhigh 43 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 okay but I'm having a hard time believing dope is about pot though like come on now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,118 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 It's no accident that the songs are right next to each other. It flows perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,414 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Where is that audio of Gaga explaining each song on ARTPOP? She already explained why she put them side by side. It was intentional and to show the beginning of the addiction that led to abuse of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britneylopez99 0 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 it tells a story.. as gaga has said millions of times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Songs are not always about your own life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 No. I think they contrast each other wonderfully. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilVenusian 579 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 News section my dear. The song "Dope" most likely isn't referring to marijuana in particular So what is the word "dope" code for then lolz. She repeats it like 50 times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIassicism 0 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 the concept/idea of the songs themselves is not hypocritical, because i think dope (the word she uses in the song) is referring to her desperate situation... on the other hand, there's something hypocritical about the songs MJH and ARTPOP, at least its only my opinion or thought ARTPOP lyrics: "I tried to sell myself, but I am really laughing Because I just love the music not the bling Music not the bling" MJH lyrics: "I know that Mom and Dad think I'm a mess But it's alright, becauseI am rich as piss" doesn't it sounds fishy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I reckon that's a reason why she's not singing Dope at artRAVE. I'm not sure the lyrics are completely truthful now. Didn't she say at SXSW that she was on "about step 9" when she sang the "twelve steps" lyric? That's a pretty firm indication she's still smoking pot/doing d--gs. It's sad and I wish she'd stop, but I know how hard addiction is so I don't blame her. No, it's not. You work through the steps as you go through fighting your addiction. You don't have to complete the twelve steps before you start trying to stop. There is no hard and fast rule for the 12 steps. Some people go through them in 6 months...some it might take a couple of years. You don't have to start over, either, if you slip up. Some people go through them once and never do the steps again. Some do the steps several times throughout their battle with their addiction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth 450 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 The "hypocrisy" is intentional I'm sure, which is why MJH and Dope play back to back. It's meant to transition from glamorizing it and using pot to escape herself and her fame, over to dealing with the consequences of the addiction in how it's affected her soul and her relationships. Given the whole album is supposed to be about "dualities," the theme of d--gs and alcohol is meant to show the positive and negative side. Whether she executed it well is really up to you. I think she did alright by the theme... I like the direction of each track though I think the sum is greater than the parts in this case. It's the same reason she has Donatella and Fashion playing back to back as well. Donatella is making light of the shallowness and vanity of the fashion world, and Fashion is meant to illicit the glamor and feeling of power she gets when she puts her outfits on. She fetishizes both the good and the bad. She's always done that. You can extend that theme to describe the transition between Gypsy (a song about feeling vulnerable but independent) and Applause (a song about feeling infallible but codependent toward an audience). Hell, Aura itself showcases both sides of the same theme. She wants to show you a glimpse of the man behind the curtain (teasing at there being some vulnerability or humanity there) but then insists that being an enigma is much more fun, and that all that's behind the curtain is more s-x, pop, and erratic loudness. What you see is what you get, essentially. Perfect post, I agree! :legend: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 It just seems hypocritical I dont know. You dont celebrate one thing and after a sec you totally devalue it. The songs weren't written back to back, so it was longer than a sec. Even so...addicts MOST CERTAINLY DO have conflicting thoughts, over their d--g(s) of choice, that can run through their mind within seconds of each other! No doubt, it is a love-hate relationship...especially at first. There isn't a rational explanation for the way an addict's mind works. An addict can hate what they love and love what they hate...all in a short time period. Because of the irrational logic and mixed feelings of an addict, especially one that is new to challenging their addiction, the two songs being back to back are actually perfect! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Monster 846 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 1. It shows her journey back to normal life (MJH - Dope -Gypsy) 2. The song is not just about weed, but also about being tired of being yourself, so you decide to be someone else... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,388 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 ya'll are reading into this too much. ARTPOP isn't some sort of metaphorical poetic journey, it's just a bunch of wanna-be singles that never fulfilled their destiny. MJH and dope are just songs So I take it you did NOT watch the video where she literally says she put them side by side to tell a story of d--g use and consequence lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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