Confusion with the GP and Gaga

[Oscar 1,031]

I think it's a lot of factors:

 

1. Born This Way (single and album). It was a huge, brave risk but people were put off by the religious themes and strange new sound. It narrowed her audience significantly.

 

2. She kickstarted the avant garde/"crazy" fashion trend in 2008 and didn't evolve from that. Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, Rihanna and Kesha started dressing like clowns because it was popular. Then society changed, as it always does, and those pop stars changed their styles, too. But Gaga didn't change because she wasn't following a trend; she was just being herself. And the majority of people don't "get" that, so they think she's still stuck in 2010.

 

3. The media decided to make her into a public hate figure and this became a whole lot easier when her popularity declined and her controversial antics became more frequent. It also didn't help that she started to respond to the negativity, which is something she hadn't done before. The GP started to think exactly how the media wanted them to think.

 

4. The enigma disappeared. Gaga started showing everybody the "girl behind the aura". She opened up about her boyfriend, her private life, her family; she went from befriending the living legends to fraternizing with Katy Perry and One Direction; she lowered herself by responding to the negativity of talentless celebrities, which resulted in public spats and feuds; she publicly admitted she was mismanaged and acknowledged how unstable her career was. And in doing all these things, she lost the mystery that made her so interesting in the first place. She became the "celebrity" she vehemently denied she was. 

 

5. She disappeared for half a year. Even while on tour with BTW, the media talked about her semi-regularly. Then in Feb 2013, it was as if she stopped existing in pop culture. We saw no sign of her for months and she rarely kept in contact with her fans. Obviously she was going through a very hard time, but I believe this blackout was a big reason why she's just fallen off the radar. It didn't help that she came back with a lukewarm, safe lead single that was unfortunately pitted against a more popular song.

 

6. She released an album called ARTPOP. With a name like that, it was doomed from the start, no matter how good it was.

I only disagree with #4 and #6 otherwise this is kinda true. 

#4 she opened up a lot before that. She opened up during the born this way era. She was so mysterious during TF/TFM era. She's been pretty open since then. 

#6, who really cares about the title of an album as long as the music's good? 

But overall I agree but I don't want people to believe that Lady Gaga is over. She can still recover as long as she shoots out good music with good promo. 

[PopBitch 1,218]

It's because people love to see others fail. When you think of American Idol, XFactor etc. People soon get sick of the contestants and enjoy seeing their downfall.

When an artist goes crazy and has a breakdown people love the drama like its some sort of freak show. People want Gaga to fail because the general population are spiteful pricks and that's the way humanity is unfortunately.

True.  Watching the Britney breakdown period was sad and even worse was reading all the the trash about her for a year until she hit rock bottom.  

[MurderLipstick 44]

Why are you focusing on singles? Single success, album success, awards/accolades, tour revenue, video success was better during TF/M and BTW. She was the biggest global artist at one point in her career.

If you want to focus on singles, singles charted better during TF, TFM and BTW than during ARTPOP. It isn't about her getting a #1 single every time she releases something.

She had incredible single sales WW. Just Dance sold 10 mill, Poker Face sold 14mill, Bad Romance sold 10mill, Born This Way sold 8.4 mill, Telephone sold 7.4 mill. Applause should break 3 million at some point.

TF/M sold 15 million copies worldwide, BTW sold 6 million copies worldwide, ARTPOP has sold 2.3 million copies.

Lady Gaga at one point was #1. Now I would say the biggest star is Beyonce.

I don't think you understand what I said.

I stated that I don't care about the charts, I just dont understand how people use them against her saying that she's not a number 1 artist anymore, as if all her songs went to the top. It's annoying how so many try to base her success only with the charts when she had created so much more that helped her to where she is today.

[HaveAnOysterBBy 796]

i was at a gay club in hollywood the other day and G.U.Y. came on and i seemed like the only one excited, than out of curiousity i asked random people what they thought of her and the song and almost all responses were 'she trys to hard' i think gypsy single release and a cute video would definately save this era, she needs to release something more gp and less 'weird'

[PopBitch 1,218]

This tbh.

 

I think the overexposure during the Born This Way era is what really did her in, and yes, people have been talking sh*t about Gaga since day one, it's just that now instead of saying she's a gimmick and an attention *****, they talk about how ARTPOP supposedly flopped.

And she will survive it and should just say F off and focus on her tour and come back when ready.  There's no proven formula for surviving backlash, just moving forward and proving them wrong.

 

1993 - big CNN report on Madonna's career flopping and how the media is tired of her, overexposure, "Has the Material girl run out of material," and debate amongst the media on this Showbiz report about the  backlash and disappointing Erotica sales and era during Madonna's opening three-night run in NY of the Girlie Show..

 

You could insert Gaga's name in many of these comments because they've been said about her. .  Look how wrong many were about Madonna's career being over.  It's over 21 years later and still going strong.  Gaga has to turn a deaf ear to the hype of career over, etc.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFq6UovHb_U

 

 

The second night of her New York run Madonna responds to the backlash and that CNN show and to a negative review I think of the first show:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNA2DYnKepU

[shaneybaby 450]

i think she didnt wanna b fake anymore and wanted to just b close to her fans and decide hell with the constant acting and sunglasses and she wanted to be real and then she wasnt as polarizing to ppl. but who would wanna live their entire life in sunglasses and like a robot. im happy she opened up shes cooler to me now by a mile 

[Bebe 17,093]

I don't think you understand what I said.

I stated that I don't care about the charts, I just dont understand how people use them against her saying that she's not a number 1 artist anymore, as if all her songs went to the top. It's annoying how so many try to base her success only with the charts when she had created so much more that helped her to where she is today.

 

I don't care that she isn't the top pop girl any more. I wouldn't care if she never scored a top ten hit ever again as long as she made music that I like, that doesn't mean you're not allowed to discuss chart success. That opinion really started to emerge when Applause came out. It just doesn't make any sense.

 

[MurderLipstick 44]

I don't care that she isn't the top pop girl any more. I wouldn't care if she never scored a top ten hit ever again as long as she made music that I like, that doesn't mean you're not allowed to discuss chart success. That opinion really started to emerge when Applause came out. It just doesn't make any sense.

It really doesn't. It's ridiculous that the mainstream media picks up extremely false stories and act as if it is all true. Without any type of facts or figures provided. I would love it if one day Gaga creates her own record label that is only about the music, not the profitability, and creating exactly what she wants without rules or limitations.

One thing I think is cool is that she partnered with Doritos for SXSW. It wasn't some shady business deal. They paid her a respectable amount considering how much of her own she puts in her shows, as well as the large portion going to the BTWF.