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MJHolland

No, actually what he said sounds reasonable. Your posts, however, show a lack of empathy.

lol, he's literally agreeing with me. Because he added a personal experience with a friend he has empathy and I don't? 

 

I am curious, what do you think of weed smoking in the legal sense? I mean, anybody who smokes illegal substances is a criminal, and if people like Gaga or your local user were arrested, I can easily say "I am unsympathetic bc they knew full well that doing it was illegal." Would you say the same thing to illegal d--g users who also willingly and brazingly break the law? (I am for legalization but im talking about the principle).

Laws are on the books. They don't just pop up out of nowhere. I have absolutely no sympathy for someone who is arrested, tried, and convicted of a crime as long as the law and arrest (along with the seizure of information) are Constitutional. I would entirely agree with the statement "I am unsympathetic bc they knew full well that doing it was illegal" and what could happen to them if caught. If Lady Gaga beaks the law in the US, I'd hope that she would get prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law, just like any other citizen would.

 

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. 

 

This in no way, shape, or form gives away my position on the legalization of weed. I am entirely for the full legalization of pot in all 50 states. However, this does not make it OK for someone to break the law and get away with it. Making weed illegal is not unconstitutional, so states/the federal government can still make it illegal to smoke or sell it. 

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Morphine Prince

lol, he's literally agreeing with me. Because he added a personal experience with a friend he has empathy and I don't? 

He doesn't present his ideas the way you do. 

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MJHolland

He doesn't present his ideas the way you do. 

So you can represent reality in multiple ways? Maybe, but it's called sugarcoating. 

 

Edit: cuz last time I checked, there was only one reality. Some may need to get theirs checked.... 

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Morphine Prince

So you can represent reality in multiple ways? Maybe, but it's called sugarcoating. 

No, the overly dramatic posts were over the top. You made it sound like they were conspiring to destroy the country or something :smh: 

 

It's not even that I don't think you're right about the impact, but it's not as dramatic as some people make it out to be. And these are still people we are talking about, not objects. 

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lol, he's literally agreeing with me. Because he added a personal experience with a friend he has empathy and I don't?

Laws are on the books. They don't just pop up out of nowhere. I have absolutely no sympathy for someone who is arrested, tried, and convicted of a crime as long as the law and arrest (along with the seizure of information) are Constitutional. I would entirely agree with the statement "I am unsympathetic bc they knew full well that doing it was illegal" and what could happen to them if caught. If Lady Gaga beaks the law in the US, I'd hope that she would get prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law, just like any other citizen would.

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

This in no way, shape, or form gives away my position on the legalization of weed. I am entirely for the full legalization of pot in all 50 states. However, this does not make it OK for someone to break the law and get away with it. Making weed illegal is not unconstitutional, so states/the federal government can still make it illegal to smoke or sell it.

Oh i thought you said that quote but i think it was someone else :rip: but i have a feeling that most smokers, including the ones on GGD will disagree bc of weed's plant-ness and whatnot. And Gaga would def not be prosecuted to the extent of an urban youth but that's another discussion.

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Lets put you in immigrants shoes shall we? For this 'story' we will be talking about Manuel.

Manuel is living in Mexico

Manuel gets payed **** at his job

Manuel wants a better life for his kids

Manuel cant afford a plane ticket or a VISA

Manuel wants a better opportunity for his kids, despite the risks.

Manuel heads for the border.

Manuel crosses the boarder

Manuel manages to get a job, while still getting paid ****. It is more than he got paid in Mexico though.

Manuel loves his kids enough to risk anything for them, even his life

Manuel gets hate and racist slurs everywhere he goes.

Manuel manages to land a job that pays a lot more

Manuel pays taxes, like a lot of the immigrants in the USA

Manuel's kids go to a nice public school.

Manuel gets stopped by a police car for missing a stop sign.

Manuel gets asked for his license.
Manuel doesn't have said license. Cop gets suspicious, and takes him into custody. Does his research, and realizes that Manuel has no green card. Or visa for that matter

Manuel gets deported with his kids

Is Manuel a criminal?

No. He is a brave ass father risking his life for a better life of his kids.

he is a hero.

 

Ready for the "But i'm not in that situation sooooo :manicure: " comments.

 

 

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The solution is simple, stop trying to come over illegally

 

The US has enough of our own problems to deal with

This. I have no sympathy for them at all.
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Whispering

So you can represent reality in multiple ways? Maybe, but it's called sugarcoating. 

 

Edit: cuz last time I checked, there was only one reality. Some may need to get theirs checked....

You need to check again. Your reality could be quite different from others. Everything isn't as black and white as you think it is.

The world is full of shades of gray.

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Morphine Prince

You need to check again. Your reality could be quite different from others. Everything isn't as black and white as you think it is.

The world is full of shades of gray.

:tea: 

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lego

This. I have no sympathy for them at all.

America is made from immigrants. To Native Americans all of you are illegal immigrants who came, killed, closed in reservations and took their land.

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I'm from the UK, and literally all I see is people that can't speak a word of English, but expect for the government to pay for them to live here. It's awful.

America is made from immigrants. To Native Americans all of you are illegal immigrants who came, killed, closed in reservations and took their land.
I'm not from the USA so
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MJHolland

America is made from immigrants. To Native Americans all of you are illegal immigrants who came, killed, closed in reservations and took their land.

first of all that wasn't the US (the country we are talking about) or claimed land, as 99.9% of the native tribes in the 13 original colonies declared that human can't own land because it doesn't belong to mankind. 

 

Second of all, those attempted illegal immigrants walked into that room themselves. Plus those conditions look a lot better than the ones they were likely trying to escape. Why do we need to feel bad for them?

 

You need to check again. Your reality could be quite different from others. Everything isn't as black and white as you think it is.

The world is full of shades of gray.

The law is the law here in the US. If you coming to america means that you break a law, the law will hit back. That's black and white. How is that not reality? Again, if you don't want to sleep on a concrete floor, don't make yourself sleep on a concrete floor.  

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Morphine Prince

I'm from the UK, and literally all I see is people that can't speak a word of English, but expect for the government to pay for them to live here. It's awful.I'm not from the USA so

How do you know they all expect the government to pay for everything?

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I'm from the UK, and literally all I see is people that can't speak a word of English, but expect for the government to pay for them to live here. It's awful.

 

 

:wtf:

 

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