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ARTPOP or Prism more pretentious?


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Magdalena

ARTPOP is art and we all know Gaga's been making art since her beginings.

And Prism? Letting the light in.... What does that have to do with Katy Perry and her funny costumes?

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Elizabeth

Neither albums are what I would describe as 'pretentious'.

However, I think you're looking for something which isn't there in Prism. I don't really think there is a concept other than that it's catchy pop music. There's nothing wrong with that, but I don't think there's anything more to it than that. It's simple, appealing and easily digestible. 

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Katy later said PRISM took another direction and wouldn't be dark, I can't see why people won't let that off the hook.

 

I like ARTPOP more but its more pretentious clearly.

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My Little Phoney

Well, it´s like comparing Picasso to a two-years-old kid´s drawing on the wall :toofunny:

 

Basically.

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Neither are pretentious. They're both the artists' visions that they believe in. I can't find that pretentious :shrug:

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I think the ARTPOP term makes it look pretentious but Gaga described it as a happy and free record. PRISM was described as a mature album and clearly is not.

You clearly haven't even listened to more than a third of it.

So stupid, wow.

Anyway, obviously ARTPOP. Prism is a very down-to-earth album. Not amazing, but it's relatable and she doesn't pretend to be anything she isn't or that it's artistic. Just honest music.

ARTPOP is very pretentious it's not artistic at all, it's an album mostly about s-x../ lol

Well, it´s like comparing Picasso to a two-years-old kid´s drawing on the wall :toofunny:

Gaga is NOT a Picasso, and Katy and gaga are both just pop stats.... The thing is, Katy knows and accepts that, whereas gaga pretends to be something more

Neither are pretentious. They're both the artists' visions that they believe in. I can't find that pretentious :shrug:

I like this. Very true

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SummerGirl21

ARTPOP. Gaga is just kinda pretentious.  But in a good way?  I donno.  It works for her.  She deserves to be pretentious. lol.

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Celina

You clearly haven't even listened to more than a third of it.

So stupid, wow.

Anyway, obviously ARTPOP. Prism is a very down-to-earth album. Not amazing, but it's relatable and she doesn't pretend to be anything she isn't or that it's artistic. Just honest music.

ARTPOP is very pretentious it's not artistic at all, it's an album mostly about s-x../ lol

 

 

 

Who says s-x can't be a subject for art? What does subject matter even have to do with it?

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Tommy Monster

Gaga is NOT a Picasso, and Katy and gaga are both just pop stats.... The thing is, Katy knows and accepts that, whereas gaga pretends to be something more

 

 

Well, that´s your oppinion... for me Gaga´s music is Art, Katy´s music is a... well... nice try (my nice try to be decent :ohwell: )

 

They cannot be compared, cause Gaga´s music has some deep value, creativity, metaphors and she doesn´t aim her music at charts, that´s why her music is innovative, while Katy keeps repeating herself (And Sara Bareilles) :toofunny:

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Runway

You clearly haven't even listened to more than a third of it.

So stupid, wow.

Anyway, obviously ARTPOP. Prism is a very down-to-earth album. Not amazing, but it's relatable and she doesn't pretend to be anything she isn't or that it's artistic. Just honest music.

ARTPOP is very pretentious it's not artistic at all, it's an album mostly about s-x../ lol

Gaga is NOT a Picasso, and Katy and gaga are both just pop stats.... The thing is, Katy knows and accepts that, whereas gaga pretends to be something more

I like this. Very true

Katy honest music :lmao:

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You clearly haven't even listened to more than a third of it.

So stupid, wow.

EDIT: MESS you weren't even talking to me. Nvm :hug:

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Tropico

You clearly haven't even listened to more than a third of it.

So stupid, wow.

Anyway, obviously ARTPOP. Prism is a very down-to-earth album. Not amazing, but it's relatable and she doesn't pretend to be anything she isn't or that it's artistic. Just honest music.

ARTPOP is very pretentious it's not artistic at all, it's an album mostly about s-x../ lol

Gaga is NOT a Picasso, and Katy and gaga are both just pop stats.... The thing is, Katy knows and accepts that, whereas gaga pretends to be something more

I like this. Very true

You have a very strong hate against ARTPOP as you've now shown in multiple threads. Gaga is an artist because to make art you must create... And requires creativity. Gaga actually created ARTPOP... Katy had a bunch of people do it for her. So yeah Gaga is an artist and you do know that music is an art right? As long as you created it, it is your art so gaga did make art and she brought it to us in the forum of pop. And she's actually incorporated art into the era. Multiple times actually. And ARTPOP is very down to earth... It's opener is about Gaga showing her true personality. And if s-x insipres one to create art then who are you to judge. And ARTPOP is not all about s-x... You judge it because it has 2 songs which have only some s-xual meaning 1 song which is half about s-x and one song completely about s-x. 4 songs. On a 15 track album. Please. And she is being down to earth... She shows her love for the arts, her desire to bring art and pop together, her love life, her darker past, reveals a new side to us and her love for performance art. That is more down to earth then PRISM. Sexuality doesn't make it less any less art than it is. PRISM can't be down to earth if it isn't even written by her. And Gaga is an artist. She refuses to be titled as just another pop star as you see her. She won't just sit back and accept it like Katy has. So you are wrong. Very rude of by the way.

On topic: PRISM easily. She has some idea of this "let the light in" thing but how is she doing that. Don't say something but then do another. "Let the light in" *does nothing to spread this "light"*.

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ThisGuyTony

It's viewed as "pretentious" because ARTPOP is just "pop" without any of the art she promised (yes, the art is in the visuals) but it's still no excuse as to why the album has some of her worst lyrics to date.

At least Katy showcased artistic growth on PRISM.

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