Didymus 32,745 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 "I refuse to compromise and allow my talents to be monetized to the point that I don't even wanna be here anymore. I will stop. I will stop, I will quit, I will retire from the commercial market if I have to do something other than be myself because if I can't be myself in this moment then everything I have said to my fans since the beginning would be a total lie." This quote has always fascinated me and left me frowning. It makes me think of Interscope editing her vocals on every album except Cheek to Cheek, MTV cancelling her first 2013 VMA performance, Gaga being criticized during the release of Applause because of her commercial tactics (fans having to buy Applause multiple times to win a meet & greet), Gaga admitting to hating releasing singles, not being able to decide what songs become singles or become album tracks,... Also, in the same interview: "There's many volumes of work over a long period of time that have just not been released to the public 'cause I've chosen not to put it into the system. (...) And yeah I have a whole second act of ARTPOP, I do, and I love it." It's hard to harmonize the two quotes and Gaga's criticism of the industry on the one hand and her artistic output on the other. I don't want to bash Gaga here, because I actually think that if she were free from the shackles of the music industry we'd see a whole other artist and she's not to blame for her inability to do whatever she wants now (actually I blame her fanbase more for that), but my question is: shouldn't she have retired from the commercial market a long time ago if she was actually serious about the quote at the top of this post? When do you think Gaga will have had enough? What's the limit? Do you think Gaga has and will change(d) herself for fame and profit and wasn't being sincere? Do you think that Bobby and her new career era changed her mind? What do you think would change if her fanbase stopped supporting Interscope's way of suppressing her as an artist? Let's say she did retire, what would be your reaction? Enough to discuss. Fire away & keep it nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianni Versace 2,987 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 She's a walking hyperbole, don't take anything she says 100% factual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix 17,395 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I wouldn't grab on every single sentence she or anyone else says. đź’Ž Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade 5,603 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 She's a walking hyperbole, don't take anything she says 100% factualThis. She contradicts herself all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
degenerate 443 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I've considered her a pathological liar for a good amount of time now. Just wish she was better at it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 32,745 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 She's a walking hyperbole, don't take anything she says 100% factual I never liked this "defense". It's almost a disguised attack on her integrity, actually but I don't think most of you realize that when you type things like this Anyway, I'd be disappointed if she wasn't at least serious on some level when she says things like this. Wouldn't you be? Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 32,745 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 I wouldn't grab on every single sentence she or anyone else says. I'm not just singling out a sentence And I could've easily picked more quotes that have the same aim but I wanted to keep the OP readable. Though apparently it's already not working like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
 VOLANTIS 16,019 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Well she very strongly believes in Rebirth and alter Egos. Maybe her ideas and values and moral codes are reborn from their dead ashes. Or it could be Candy Warhol and Seashell Girl feuding in her head. So much us lesser beings cant comprehend. I'll lift you 3 inches off the ground and drag you to a meter and a half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gohan 15,136 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 When will you guys learn that every person changes their mind every once in a while? She's also said that she doesn't like sleeping with random men, because she's afraid of them stealing her artistic visions from her vagina She was damn depressed by that time and I know for sure that depressed people never recover themselves completely. They could have ups and downs all the time... So: She was so angry during that interview. She said so many times that she hates how pop music is manufactured, but she NEEDS pop music in order to have fame. Why don't you quote that too? Â tryna go ask Alice, tryna catch that rabbit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Dey 1,847 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 where's that gif of gaga's interview at google where she's laughing at all the stuff she said she'd do but never did like the telephone continuation and bad kids verse etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 32,745 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 Well she very strongly believes in Rebirth and alter Egos. Maybe her ideas and values and moral codes are reborn from their dead ashes. Or it could be Candy Warhol and Seashell Girl feuding in her head. So much us lesser beings cant comprehend. This is a very interesting theory I'd love it. Kind of like a living social commentary like her The Fame persona Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
degenerate 443 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 But on other note, obviously she wouldn't have been able to just quit in 2010 if that's what you're implying. It's just recently that she's realized she's capable of doing things "free from the shackles". She's established herself enough. Plus that entire era was supposed to exude an idgaf additude. Even her tone of voice for that whole interview sounded like she had just taken a handful of Xanax Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I wouldn't grab on every single sentence she or anyone else says.This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 32,745 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 She said so many times that she hates how pop music is manufactured, but she NEEDS pop music in order to have fame. Why don't you quote that too? Whut? She never said that If she did, that would be horrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 32,745 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 But on other note, obviously she wouldn't have been able to just quit in 2010 if that's what you're implying. It's just recently that she's realized she's capable of doing things "free from the shackles". She's established herself enough. Plus that entire era was supposed to exude an idgaf additude. Even her tone of voice for that whole interview sounded like she had just taken a handful of Xanax That's interesting and I'd like to believe that's true. That's why I added the: "Do you think Bobby etc. changed her mind?" question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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