lastpopicon 37,264 Posted June 10, 2024 Share Posted June 10, 2024 6 minutes ago, Debithius said: Did people honestly think the west would forever stay left? The pendulum is going right and soon it will swing back to left. Radical left never really got hold of power in Europe. Sure some parties are more progressive but we have mostly center right and center left parties in power. What's happening is different I feel, traditional right wing conservative parties are getting destroyed by alt right parties, people don't care for moderation anymore, they follow the loudest and most hateful people possible. The melody that you choose can rescue you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berlinforme 5,385 Posted June 10, 2024 Share Posted June 10, 2024 17 minutes ago, lastpopicon said: Radical left never really got hold of power in Europe. Sure some parties are more progressive but we have mostly center right and center left parties in power. What's happening is different I feel, traditional right wing conservative parties are getting destroyed by alt right parties, people don't care for moderation anymore, they follow the loudest and most hateful people possible. Also, I too believe that the zeitgeist for political climate and openness of a society works similar to a pendulum but the problem with far-right extremists is that once they get hold of power, they won't give it up freely anymore. Especially with digital means of surveillance nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HermioneT 1,998 Posted June 10, 2024 Share Posted June 10, 2024 Don't be sad, afraid and desillusioned (at least for more than some days). It's part of right-wing strategies to make you feel like there isn't anything you can do anymore. JOIN democratic, liberal and left parties right now and campaign for liberal values! As women and gays we cannot do nothing. Or at least fight back online, that were these right idiots gain the majority of their followers anyway. She / hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayioshka 3,295 Posted June 10, 2024 Share Posted June 10, 2024 As a French citizen who's not of European origins, I voted for nobody, I'm apolitical, all those politicians are for most of them liars. From the LFI to the RN, they work for lobbies not for the ppl. It's sad to see that many young ppl became racists, but I don't think that the RN is a dangerous party at all. In fact the European Union give them restrictions, the RN can't do anything they want. Also I'm desperate to see that some ppl truly voted for Bardella cause he's "charismatic", I saw some ppl saying this and woah, it's incredible to see how much ppl became dvmb. In my peace era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 15,849 Posted June 10, 2024 Share Posted June 10, 2024 10 hours ago, lastpopicon said: Radical left never really got hold of power in Europe. Sure some parties are more progressive but we have mostly center right and center left parties in power. What's happening is different I feel, traditional right wing conservative parties are getting destroyed by alt right parties, people don't care for moderation anymore, they follow the loudest and most hateful people possible. I forget who the member was who said it on here, but they are right in that we need global revolution to fix the world. The solutions to the alt-right bigots keep failing, and bad parenting of children by alt-right parents gives said bigots a steady stream of support. We need worldwide revolution to change the planet. Bring back 1848. he/him/his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,533 Posted June 10, 2024 Share Posted June 10, 2024 11 hours ago, berlinforme said: Also, I too believe that the zeitgeist for political climate and openness of a society works similar to a pendulum but the problem with far-right extremists is that once they get hold of power, they won't give it up freely anymore. Especially with digital means of surveillance nowadays. Exactly right. When politics becomes a zero sum game, loses become potentially generational. Really sad. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 52,533 Posted June 10, 2024 Share Posted June 10, 2024 8 hours ago, Fck I luv Art said: I voted for nobody Oh that’s not- We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayesha Erotica 1,924 Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 but I don't understand why he dissolves the parliament, why? I mean, then there will be a new parliament? how is that helping macron? Your boyfriend comes over with a bit of gun oil Says he wants to step on new soil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,940 Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 On 6/10/2024 at 1:57 AM, berlinforme said: Also, I too believe that the zeitgeist for political climate and openness of a society works similar to a pendulum but the problem with far-right extremists is that once they get hold of power, they won't give it up freely anymore. Especially with digital means of surveillance nowadays. You'd think that the "but digital" would be that we wouldn't swing right anymore and that we would continue to explore an openness. It's all just greed, and it's such a sad disease. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debithius 6,056 Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 On 6/10/2024 at 8:37 AM, lastpopicon said: Radical left never really got hold of power in Europe. Sure some parties are more progressive but we have mostly center right and center left parties in power. What's happening is different I feel, traditional right wing conservative parties are getting destroyed by alt right parties, people don't care for moderation anymore, they follow the loudest and most hateful people possible. Or maybe we are tired of a lot of the bs going on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th Time Around 5,059 Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 The thing that worries me is that we are no longer dealing with old school conservatives who we might disagree with on some policy but nothing else. Now, we are seeing a return to a more draconian and radical form of right wing because traditional conservatism is being destroyed before our eyes and replaced with something much more dangerous Here is your throat back, thanks for the loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpopicon 37,264 Posted June 20, 2024 Share Posted June 20, 2024 5 hours ago, Debithius said: Or maybe we are tired of a lot of the bs going on? And I understand that. I have close friend swith the same mindset, and they aren't bad people, just got dealt a bad hand I feel. But I still feel that moderation is important in this day and age. The melody that you choose can rescue you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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