Wet Fire 7,001 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I'm glad she made a point. However, I hope she understands the complexity of being human and forgive him. I don't want to see another cancel culture drama. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meruk Holland 2,245 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 This is a special case, because it's heavily implied that Joey had a level of power/authority over Lydia, but it doesn't seem to stem from age, but rather from a kind of fame or idolatry. He is the son of a...somewhat famous singer and in a band of his own. She says she was a fan prior to their relationship. As a result, there was an implication of certain expectations and pressure for Lydia, but I'm sure neither of them really thought too much about it. Doesn't mean the relationship wasn't heavily affected by it, nor does it mean that Joey is excused for pushing her into doing things without really being aware she might not have felt she really had a choice. Kinda just sounds like he was being a generic f*ckboi. That's just my initial thoughts, my eyes are tired and I'm having trouble reading the small text on the instagram posts, so I'll read it all in detail later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 74,825 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I don't think I understand exactly what happened did he force himself onto her? chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ivy 12,111 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I read this differently, I thought she meant they broke up because she finally realized he never wanted a real relationship with her after she turned 18 like he had been saying. It sounds like they were having sexual relations all along and that wasn't the reason for break up. In other words he was using the promise of a "real" relationship to get her to do more sexual things and stringing her along. Her point just seems to be that he's a hypocrite. the meow in zombieboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenWonder 4,257 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Unless I am totally reading this wrong, he never pursued sex with her until two month before she became of age. Frankly, that makes me respect him. Obvi there was no sexual abuse. They never had sex. Cant' speak for mental or physical. Something about this doesn't pass the smell test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Meruk Holland said: This is a special case, because it's heavily implied that Joey had a level of power/authority over Lydia, but it doesn't seem to stem from age, but rather from a kind of fame or idolatry. He is the son of a...somewhat famous singer and in a band of his own. She says she was a fan prior to their relationship. Hmm I wouldn’t call Billie Joel Armstrong a somewhat famous singer, Green Day was pretty huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickSpears 2,078 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Meruk Holland said: This is a special case, because it's heavily implied that Joey had a level of power/authority over Lydia, but it doesn't seem to stem from age, but rather from a kind of fame or idolatry. He is the son of a...somewhat famous singer and in a band of his own. She says she was a fan prior to their relationship. As a result, there was an implication of certain expectations and pressure for Lydia, but I'm sure neither of them really thought too much about it. Doesn't mean the relationship wasn't heavily affected by it, nor does it mean that Joey is excused for pushing her into doing things without really being aware she might not have felt she really had a choice. Kinda just sounds like he was being a generic f*ckboi. That's just my initial thoughts, my eyes are tired and I'm having trouble reading the small text on the instagram posts, so I'll read it all in detail later. Woah, Green Day is a huge band even if they don't get hits on radio they are still huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG 7 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: It doesnt matter if he forced himself on her, shes under age Age of consent varies depending on the state. She doesn’t mention any particular time that they had sex while she was underaged. Just that she felt intimidated(?) by him I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, darkpaw said: Age of consent varies depending on the state. She doesn’t mention any particular time that they had sex while she was underaged. Just that she felt intimidated(?) by him I guess. Age of consent is 17 in New York which is where she was! So this was okay?! im confused. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG 7 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Age of consent is 17 in New York which is where she was! So this was okay?! im confused. It’s not ok but he’s not a pedo or abused as she’s claiming since they never had sex even after she was 18 yrs old. Basically she was with him for the lifestyle he was promising her but she feels that he only wanted sex and broke up with her because she refused. They were using each other and both left empty handed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 5 hours ago, RAMROD said: He is trying to take advantage of her and manipulate her when she was underage. So this is not a misled. He was 20. He can do things without his parents supervision anymore. He is an adult. You know it's scientifically proven that women's minds mature faster than men's minds. She probably got what she wanted dating a celebrity's son. Good restaurants, good gifts, nice vacations and he didn't get anything. Who is manipulating who? "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 107,502 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 53 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said: You know it's scientifically proven that women's minds mature faster than men's minds. She probably got what she wanted dating a celebrity's son. Good restaurants, good gifts, nice vacations and he didn't get anything. Who is manipulating who? She is still 16 when that happened regardless, how hard is this is to understand?? (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ 𝔦 𝔞𝔪 𝔰𝔱𝔯𝔬𝔫𝔤 𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔭𝔦𝔱𝔢 𝔪𝔶 𝔰𝔠𝔞𝔯𝔰 (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 12,111 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Basically he was using her for sex, and she was too young to realize it.. from reading the whole post it does sound abusive and gross the way that he pressured her to keep everything secret the meow in zombieboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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