malazam 15,710 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, TheCureinMalibu said: i mean Gaga has bigger decline   5 minutes ago, Stef said: Comparing a small drop to an almighty tumble   17 minutes ago, Hades said: The drop is not even comparable. Taylor has always been consistent and way bigger than Gaga. Double standards do exist but this is not it. It's a joke. another shot before we kiss the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mana Mahad 1,749 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 We love a flop era  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbins 1,760 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, Hades said: The drop is not even comparable. Taylor has always been consistent and way bigger than Gaga. Double standards do exist but this is not it. Taylor is not bigger than Gaga outside of the US and 2009-2011 Gaga was way bigger in the US. Taylor has remained a commercial force because she plays it safe/is not offensive so she retains a wide demographic like Adele. A mother would be much happier with their child listening to Taylor Swift than the âoutlandishâ and âsexualâ Lady Gaga. Taylor is literally the perfect example of white mediocrity winning. She didnât stand for anything for the majority of her career and now all of sudden sheâs being open with her politics, when itâs safer to support the gays. Just mediocrity all around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagaisitalian 3,573 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 She did this without the tour contest like she did with Reputation in which if you bought more albums you had a better chance at good seats! Queen! She had all of the deluxe editions, but it's up to the fans to buy them and this time they had no reward when doing so. Her fan base is amazing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 32,744 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bobbins said: Taylor is not bigger than Gaga outside of the US and 2009-2011 Gaga was way bigger in the US. Taylor has remained a commercial force because she plays it safe/is not offensive so she retains a wide demographic like Adele. A mother would be much happier with their child listening to Taylor Swift than the âoutlandishâ and âsexualâ Lady Gaga. Taylor is literally the perfect example of white mediocrity winning. She didnât stand for anything for the majority of her career and now all of sudden sheâs being open with her politics, when itâs safer to support the gays. Just mediocrity all around. I 100% agree with everything you said, but it really doesnât matter. The only people who really care about numbers (besides record labels obviously) are stans on twitter and fan forums. We should just let her fans enjoy this and stop comparing with other, arguably better, artists. At the end of the day, McDonalds will always sell more burgers than a fancy restaurant would. Thereâs no use comparing apples and oranges. Letâs just let her fans enjoy this, theyâre not hurting anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanxDream 2,049 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 A mess. A kii. A downfall. Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnWayne92 2,201 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bobbins said: Taylor is not bigger than Gaga outside of the US and 2009-2011 Gaga was way bigger in the US. Taylor has remained a commercial force because she plays it safe/is not offensive so she retains a wide demographic like Adele. A mother would be much happier with their child listening to Taylor Swift than the âoutlandishâ and âsexualâ Lady Gaga. Taylor is literally the perfect example of white mediocrity winning. She didnât stand for anything for the majority of her career and now all of sudden sheâs being open with her politics, when itâs safer to support the gays. Just mediocrity all around. It's always "never enough," for people. I cant tell you how amazing it feels to hear, "You Need To Calm Down," blasting on the radio, in stores, restaurants, and anywhere else. The fact that, in the south, in America, a song like that is being blasted talking about gay pride and not stepping on his gown is a win in my eyes. Taylor was a kid when she started. She wasnt exposed to a lot of things, and writes from a personal perspective. As she grew up, toured the world, became more cultured and aware of things, her music changed. She mentioned the LGBTQ+ community in Welcome to New York on 1989. Discovering yourself and what you stand for takes time, she isnt even 30 yet. She has grown, in front of us, I might add. She is a mainstream, "safe," artist who is now using her platform to show support and eqaulity for all, including interracial relationships, like in her Lover music video. I dont see anything to complain about, but then again, we are on GGD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Gaga 1,466 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Bobbins said: Taylor is not bigger than Gaga outside of the US and 2009-2011 Gaga was way bigger in the US. Taylor has remained a commercial force because she plays it safe/is not offensive so she retains a wide demographic like Adele. A mother would be much happier with their child listening to Taylor Swift than the âoutlandishâ and âsexualâ Lady Gaga. Taylor is literally the perfect example of white mediocrity winning. She didnât stand for anything for the majority of her career and now all of sudden sheâs being open with her politics, when itâs safer to support the gays. Just mediocrity all around. White mediocrity??? In what way is Taylor mediocre??? Can you explain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Gaga 1,466 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Outselling other girlies's peak eras with her flop album.We stan an Album selling Legend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbins 1,760 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Just now, Saint Gaga said: White mediocrity??? In what way is Taylor mediocre??? Can you explain? Sheâs not an excellent singer/performer/dancer. The only thing she has going for her is her songwriting and even then sheâs written some terrible lyrics. Sheâs a pretty, blonde white popstar, who sings Max Martin hits, who isnât offensive which is why sheâs kept herself afloat. White people have historically been rewarded for their mediocrity over POC who have to work much harder. This is relevant in music as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bobbins 1,760 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, JohnWayne92 said: It's always "never enough," for people. I cant tell you how amazing it feels to hear, "You Need To Calm Down," blasting on the radio, in stores, restaurants, and anywhere else. The fact that, in the south, in America, a song like that is being blasted talking about gay pride and not stepping on his gown is a win in my eyes. Taylor was a kid when she started. She wasnt exposed to a lot of things, and writes from a personal perspective. As she grew up, toured the world, became more cultured and aware of things, her music changed. She mentioned the LGBTQ+ community in Welcome to New York on 1989. Discovering yourself and what you stand for takes time, she isnt even 30 yet. She has grown, in front of us, I might add. She is a mainstream, "safe," artist who is now using her platform to show support and eqaulity for all, including interracial relationships, like in her Lover music video. I dont see anything to complain about, but then again, we are on GGD. I think itâs a good thing she speaks up about gay rights. Sheâs just doing it now when itâs safer. Gaga had huge backlash for supporting the gays in 2011 with Born This away. She alienated so many people, I remember so many of my guy friends refused to listen to her music because she was too âgayâ. Now Taylor releases a song about gay rights and nobody bats an eyelid, and my male friends say itâs okay to listen to her because sheâs cute. I just think sheâs your typical privileged white girl with mediocre talent who had her wealthy parents help her start her music career. Thatâs my opinion, take it or leave it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,979 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Americans: Taylor isnât big outside the US Chinese fans: Are we a joke to you  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Gaga 1,466 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Just now, Bobbins said: Sheâs not an excellent singer/performer/dancer. The only thing she has going for her is her songwriting and even then sheâs written some terrible lyrics. Sheâs a pretty, blonde white popstar, who sings Max Martin hits, who isnât offensive which is why sheâs kept herself afloat. White people have historically been rewarded for their mediocrity over POC who have to work much harder. This is relevant in music as well. Lmao. She must not be a great vocalist,but her voice is amazing & is so soothing to listen to.A pop star need not to have all the talents you know.Madonna was never a great vocalist either. You're fuming,but why?? Why her success bothers you so much. There are many pretty white girls flopping out there(like Carly) & many black artists with mediocre talents like Rihanna thriving. Why do you have no problem with that?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mana Mahad 1,749 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bobbins said: I think itâs a good thing she speaks up about gay rights. Sheâs just doing it now when itâs safer. Gaga had huge backlash for supporting the gays in 2011 with Born This away. She alienated so many people, I remember so many of my guy friends refused to listen to her music because she was too âgayâ. Now Taylor releases a song about gay rights and nobody bats an eyelid, and my male friends say itâs okay to listen to her because sheâs cute. I just think sheâs your typical privileged white girl with mediocre talent who had her wealthy parents help her start her music career. Thatâs my opinion, take it or leave it. Clown! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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