ThatAsianGuy 2,365 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, moonboywow said: Why wouldn't it be true? There's kpop idols that make their own stuff. Jonghyun did. Bts do. Lots of people do. Cause alot of kpop artists lipsyncs there are few of them who dont. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonboywow 3,136 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, ThatAsianGuy said: Cause alot of kpop artists lipsyncs there are few of them who dont. None of my favorite groups and solo artists do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApplauseftAdele 4,730 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 20 hours ago, AlvariusFlame said: So Grammy awards are garbage if any person can decide who deserves to win one.I though they were specialized critics with so many years on the industry. Not really. The Recording Academy isnt music critics, its music creators. And obviously it's not just "anyone" but people with exceptional talent in their field. You automatically assume BTS know nothing about music but in reality they were probably chosen due to their knowledge of music Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist 9,818 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 minute ago, ApplauseftAdele said: Not really. The Recording Academy isnt music critics, its music creators. And obviously it's not just "anyone" but people with exceptional talent in their field. You automatically assume BTS know nothing about music but in reality they were probably chosen due to their knowledge of music if you mean chosen to be in a group in a kpop industry, then sis take the wheel, good looks = kpop group is made. add some 'nootty boy edge' and u got bts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonboywow 3,136 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Antichrist said: if you mean chosen to be in a group in a kpop industry, then sis take the wheel, good looks = kpop group is made. add some 'nootty boy edge' and u got bts. Sure...looks are important in kpop. But you need to be able to dance. Sing. Rap. That's why training exists? I mean theres not any training for looking good. The companies don't pick idols solely based on looks. If they did, a lot of idol groups would sould sound like Katy Perry trying to sing live. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonsago 6,580 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Antichrist said: if you mean chosen to be in a group in a kpop industry, then sis take the wheel, good looks = kpop group is made. add some 'nootty boy edge' and u got bts. You couldn’t be more wrong. Have you tried listening to their music or doing a little research before stating such things? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist 9,818 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, moonsago said: You couldn’t be more wrong. Have you tried listening to their music or doing a little research before stating such things? yes, i've been a die-hard kpop fan for 3-4 years, and this is the conclusion, especially in the latest years, that i came to. there is no artistic vision in any of these groups. there was ages ago, especially with bts, i have to admit that, but the cash-machine took them over and it's just another bland kpop group selling their looks and over-processed shitty music with a 'banging chorus'. 4 minutes ago, moonboywow said: Sure...looks are important in kpop. But you need to be able to dance. Sing. Rap. That's why training exists? I mean theres not any training for looking good. The companies don't pick idols solely based on looks. If they did, a lot of idol groups would sould sound like Katy Perry trying to sing live. hmm... are you sure about that? the fact that there's no training for looking good pretty much answers you, no special talent is needed, the average kpop dancing can be learned, you got the looks, you got the contract. if the companies wouldn't pick idols with the focus on the looks, how come most of them strive for either the same style or end up having procedures that strive towards the 'perfect idol look' ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonboywow 3,136 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Antichrist said: yes, i've been a die-hard kpop fan for 3-4 years, and this is the conclusion, especially in the latest years, that i came to. there is no artistic vision in any of these groups. there was ages ago, especially with bts, i have to admit that, but the cash-machine took them over and it's just another bland kpop group selling their looks and over-processed shitty music with a 'banging chorus'. hmm... are you sure about that? the fact that there's no training for looking good pretty much answers you, no special talent is needed, the average kpop dancing can be learned, you got the looks, you got the contract. if the companies wouldn't pick idols with the focus on the looks, how come most of them strive for either the same style or end up having procedures that strive towards the 'perfect idol look' ? I must be out of the Loop with that then. Because my favorite groups all do their own thing and write their own stuff. The lyrics are insightful and meaningful. I dont like people like Twice much. Or Blackpink or anything like that. But like have you seen predebut shinee? They don't look that cute imo. Taemin couldn't even sing like he can now. Hr could dance. But he was considered tone deaf. I mean...people audition for certain parts just like a play. Yoongi from bts rapped in his audition. Taemin from shinee danced in his audition. Bts, shinee, ateez and stray kids are mostly who I ultimately stan. Everyone else? I'm just a casual fan of. Like ikon and red velvet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUtterfield 8 41,096 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, moonboywow said: The companies don't pick idols solely based on looks. I mean do you mean as a whole group or individually cause individually they sure do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adarsh Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Kpop seems so manufactured tbh, it reminds me of Miley’s black mirror episode. I’ve read that they are controlled and can’t even date anyone irl. I hope they’re happy and healthy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonboywow 3,136 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Adarsh said: Kpop seems so manufactured tbh, it reminds me of Miley’s black mirror episode. I’ve read that they are controlled and can’t even date anyone irl. I hope they’re happy and healthy Things are changing. I heard the American music industry rapes people. So...I'd say both are equally ****ed up. But at least the kpop industry is changing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adarsh Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 4 hours ago, moonboywow said: Things are changing. I heard the American music industry rapes people. So...I'd say both are equally ****ed up. But at least the kpop industry is changing. That’s just every work environment, not just the music industry. Women have been taken advantage of, for years and that is changing too now that girls are getting empowered and perverts are getting outed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirages 20,259 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 3:11 AM, Gypsy Life said: I mean, yeah. There's 12,000+ members, so they're not really that exclusive. But again, that applies to most award shows. Oscars also requires 2 sponsors and 3 film credits, or a nomination, to be a member. Yeah but with a nomination you are only allowed to vote for the field you've been nominated in for example Dianne Warren is a member but can vote only in music categories, if Gaga becomes a member she'll be eligible to vote every category besides technical (music, acting, picture). I'm the bitch that's fragile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonboywow 3,136 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Adarsh said: That’s just every work environment, not just the music industry. Women have been taken advantage of, for years and that is changing too now that girls are getting empowered and perverts are getting outed. Same with kpop. Things are changing in that industry just as they are here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenG 19,908 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 1:35 AM, ApplauseftAdele said: Just FYI, they are only allowed to vote in the 4 big awards and the category that they are "specialized" in. All the voters are music creators themselves so I'm glad they get to be a part of the process! Pretty sure Grammy voters can vote in all categories Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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