Fernster7 7,923 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I would watch his videos again because even though I did not agree with most of his Joanne review he seems honest, not like that Dylan guy. OT: The album deserves a 5/10 tbh. It's average, not really terrible. Monsters never die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOLANTIS 16,410 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bio said: Well, Born This Way had a very clear target audience of 13 year old outcast kids which is why it's understandable that a 30-something y/o man wouldn't like it. I'll lift you 3 inches off the ground and drag you to a meter and a half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio 23,538 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 minute ago, VOLANTIS said: It wasn't criticism, it's just the truth. I mean, just listen to Hair and Bad Kids lol. Of course some songs like Heavy Metal Lover and Scheisse are for more mature audiences but the album was aimed at that generation, you can't deny it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noula Corleone 432 Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Just now, Fernster7 said: I would watch his videos again because even though I did not agree with most of his Joanne review he seems honest, not like that Dylan guy. OT: The album deserves a 5/10 tbh. It's average, not really terrible. I think I understand what he wants from her: He acknowledges her talent -that's undeniable- but he wants her to be more daring and revealing. What we -as a fanbase- wanted Gaga to avoid (a complete change), music critics seem to demand it from her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viniferrett 16,684 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 21 minutes ago, Sherlock112 said: It's at 63 Right Now lmao it was 67 a few hours ago pichfork really ****ed him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 21 minutes ago, Sherlock112 said: Joanne - 67 ARTPOP - 61 Metacritic Cancelled Glory is at 71 18 minutes ago, GagaInTheZone said: What makes you believe that? I think Born This Way really isn't the type of album a 13 years old kid would listen to My 13 years old self tends to disagree ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernster7 7,923 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 31 minutes ago, Noula Corleone said: I think I understand what he wants from her: He acknowledges her talent -that's undeniable- but he wants her to be more daring and revealing. What we -as a fanbase- wanted Gaga to avoid (a complete change), music critics seem to demand it from her. Yeah I get it too but some of those things are pretty subjective, I wanted Gaga to go all out and change her whole sound too, but I was happy with how Joanne turned out to be. She mixed all of those genres but still made a pop album and that's nice and should be praised. I don't understand why these critics want her to go all country or rock or whatever instead of accepting the fact that she uses elements from those genres but keeps the sound accesible for her listeners, and I bet you that if she went full country on Joanne they would be dragging her saying that pop music is what she's best at and shouldn't have ditched it. Monsters never die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, Bio said: It wasn't criticism, it's just the truth. I mean, just listen to Hair and Bad Kids lol. Of course some songs like Heavy Metal Lover and Scheisse are for more mature audiences but the album was aimed at that generation, you can't deny it. I completely agree with you, I was 13 when BTW came out and I could totally relate to it, my favorite non singles songs from the album were exactly Hair & Bad Kids (which I can't listen to anymore cause the lyrics are way too cheesy ). ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 27,173 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Just now, CrazyMonster said: They gave 71 to Glory My 13 years old self tends to disagree Glory deserved 80+ Her best since Blackout I was like 13/14/15 when Born This Way was released and I loved it too but I don't know, I don't feel like it's the kind of album an teenager would want to listen to... Idk lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 106,219 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Joanne 6/10? Ignoring this guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noula Corleone 432 Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Fernster7 said: Yeah I get it too but some of those things are pretty subjective, I wanted Gaga to go all out and change her whole sound too, but I was happy with how Joanne turned out to be. She mixed all of those genres but still made a pop album and that's nice and should be praised. I don't understand why these critics want her to go all country or rock or whatever instead of accepting the fact that she uses elements from those genres but keeps the sound accesible for her listeners, and I bet you that if she went full country on Joanne they would be dragging her saying that pop music is what she's best at and shouldn't have ditched it. I completely agree with you. They might see that Gaga wants deep inside to create a whole different project, but somenthing is holding her back. Maybe her fans, maybe the people who will drag her. I think they see she is very talented and they demand that "change" just show us more, because she is capable to succeed in whatever she wants, at least in the music scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, GagaInTheZone said: Glory deserved 80+ Her best since Blackout I was like 13/14/15 when Born This Way was released and I loved it too but I don't know, I don't feel like it's the kind of album an teenager would want to listen to... Idk lol Glory was great, better than Britney Jean for sure but underwhelming there are songs like Clumsy & Private Show which are really killing the album. ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextyr97 19,986 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 31 minutes ago, Bio said: Well, Born This Way had a very clear target audience of 13 year old outcast kids which is why it's understandable that a 30-something y/o man wouldn't like it. Um, I think you're talking about Prism. Born This Way is in no way, whatsoever, geared towards 13 year olds. I'd say late teens to 25, maybe 30's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernster7 7,923 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 35 minutes ago, Noula Corleone said: I completely agree with you. They might see that Gaga wants deep inside to create a whole different project, but somenthing is holding her back. Maybe her fans, maybe the people who will drag her. I think they see she is very talented and they demand that "change" just show us more, because she is capable to succeed in whatever she wants, at least in the music scene. I honestly want Gaga to go all out if that's what she feels like doing and I hope the critics praise her if she does. She will do amazing, in the meantime I'm going to enjoy these projects where she's still experimenting but keeping her sound pop. Unless metal is what she wants to do next. Monsters never die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextyr97 19,986 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, Bio said: It wasn't criticism, it's just the truth. I mean, just listen to Hair and Bad Kids lol. Of course some songs like Heavy Metal Lover and Scheisse are for more mature audiences but the album was aimed at that generation, you can't deny it. I'll admit that those two are cheesey, but to say the entire album, all 17 songs, are aimed at kids because of 2 songs, you're wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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