Bradley 59,023 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, DiscoHeaven23 said: She must be devastated. She loved him. It's like if Gaga died, we'd be devastated. I don't understand why David didn't like her (if the rumors are true). I mean she holds so much respect and adoration for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, Bakki Del Rey said: As much as i want to see her doing that, i think that she shouldn't, because she wil be judged about it anyways. Who ****ing cares what people think? It's the right thing to do. He was an icon. No matter what, The Grammy's will tribute him. I think it would be more embarrassing for Gaga if she were to be sitting in the audience watching some pop star like Bieber or Katy try and tribute him when she STUDIED the man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPdidntflop 3,987 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 12 minutes ago, Bakki Del Rey said: Are you serious? I mean you're talking about a dead person, you're so rude. I feel sick to my stomach. riiiight.... im "rude". sorry you guys support 80s stars who did ****ed up things that were kept on the down low because information wasn't leaked as easy back then. I'm not going to celebrate the life of an evil person sorry. Attacking me makes you worse than Bill Cosby supporters Gaga x Nicki x Azealia x Ariana x Kesha x Bey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, PartySick said: Ignoring the obvious disrespect I'd actually like to hear you out. How was he a rapist and racist? In the 70's there was the glamorized "baby groupies", girls in their mid-teens hanging around (and having sex) with rock stars such as Bowie, Page,... It's Lori Maddox who claimed she was devirginized by David Bowie when she was 14. She wànted to have sex with him though, but obviously for a lot of people it's rape and that's final. Which is not that crazy. If it happened today the world would be on fire. Don't know anything about racism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, AmericanHSlave said: I don't understand why David didn't like her (if the rumors are true). I mean she holds so much respect and adoration for him. That "quote" was from a secondhand source and could have been ripped out of context. It's so vague. And Bowie was a very awkward speaker actually. I doubt he had any ill will. You have to understand he was a complex artist who saw thousands of people name drop him as an influence. That quote was taken when she was relatively new and he didn't really seem like someone who kept up with the pop Zeitgeist. I watched a documentary on him once and in the 70s he randomly moved to a shot apartment in Russia for six years and closed himself off from society to write three albums. Even though we know Gaga loved him, it's quite possible he didn't realize that at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 @PartySick His racism accusation seems to come from this: Speaking as The Thin White Duke, Bowie's persona at the time, and "at least partially tongue-in-cheek", he made statements that expressed support for fascism and perceived admiration for Adolf Hitler in interviews with Playboy, NME and a Swedish publication. Bowie was quoted as saying: "Britain is ready for a fascist leader... I think Britain could benefit from a fascist leader. After all, fascism is really nationalism... I believe very strongly in fascism, people have always responded with greater efficiency under a regimental leadership." He was also quoted as saying: "Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars" and "You've got to have an extreme right front come up and sweep everything off its feet and tidy everything up." Bowie later retracted these comments and blamed them on mental instability caused by his drug problems at the time, saying: "I was out of my mind, totally, completely crazed." (Wikipedia) What a mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagadonna 10,801 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 24 minutes ago, Bakki Del Rey said: It's weird that she still didn't tweet about him.. I wonder if she's going to do it.. Maybe she wants to keep reserve until a tribute performance Personally I don't know how I would react if Gaga died out of the blue I would be speechless for... I don't know how long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPdidntflop 3,987 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, PartySick said: Ignoring the obvious disrespect I'd actually like to hear you out. How was he a rapist and racist? I'm obviously sorry that he's passed, but I'm not going to put him on a pedastool and pretend like he's done nothing wrong. david bowie was a pedophile which a lot forget but also remember that he called himself the ‘aryan superman’ and said britain needed another hitler and gave the nazi salute and also made the racist ass squinting eyes in china girl and tbh that entire song is racist af like why are we honestly still talking about david bowie Gaga x Nicki x Azealia x Ariana x Kesha x Bey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 159,824 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Didymus said: @PartySick His racism accusation seems to come from this: Speaking as The Thin White Duke, Bowie's persona at the time, and "at least partially tongue-in-cheek", he made statements that expressed support for fascism and perceived admiration for Adolf Hitler in interviews with Playboy, NME and a Swedish publication. Bowie was quoted as saying: "Britain is ready for a fascist leader... I think Britain could benefit from a fascist leader. After all, fascism is really nationalism... I believe very strongly in fascism, people have always responded with greater efficiency under a regimental leadership." He was also quoted as saying: "Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars" and "You've got to have an extreme right front come up and sweep everything off its feet and tidy everything up." Bowie later retracted these comments and blamed them on mental instability caused by his drug problems at the time, saying: "I was out of my mind, totally, completely crazed." (Wikipedia) What a mess I don't even know what to say to that except that it's...awkward...he was "out of his mind" though, I guess. Thanks for the info I'm glad people are focusing on the positives more. Hell, even John Lennon was a wife beater. I'm sure we can pardon the man of a few sins, instead appreciating his impact and legacy of creativity and freedom. 1 minute ago, ARTPOPdidntflop said: I'm obviously sorry that he's passed, but I'm not going to put him on a pedastool and pretend like he's done nothing wrong. david bowie was a pedophile which a lot forget but also remember that he called himself the ‘aryan superman’ and said britain needed another hitler and gave the nazi salute and also made the racist ass squinting eyes in china girl and tbh that entire song is racist af like why are we honestly still talking about david bowie Yeah, Didy informed me. All I can tell ya is stay away from his threads :shrug: he did a lot of good too and I like that the good is what's being glorified. Like a lot of other people have said, without Bowie, there'd be no Gaga 🌸Flourishing and vibrant🌼 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasingGhosts 726 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, Didymus said: @PartySick His racism accusation seems to come from this: Speaking as The Thin White Duke, Bowie's persona at the time, and "at least partially tongue-in-cheek", he made statements that expressed support for fascism and perceived admiration for Adolf Hitler in interviews with Playboy, NME and a Swedish publication. Bowie was quoted as saying: "Britain is ready for a fascist leader... I think Britain could benefit from a fascist leader. After all, fascism is really nationalism... I believe very strongly in fascism, people have always responded with greater efficiency under a regimental leadership." He was also quoted as saying: "Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars" and "You've got to have an extreme right front come up and sweep everything off its feet and tidy everything up." Bowie later retracted these comments and blamed them on mental instability caused by his drug problems at the time, saying: "I was out of my mind, totally, completely crazed." (Wikipedia) What a mess The comment about Hitler being one of the first rock stars is intresting and quite true tbh. Though if you've seen Bowie during the Thin White Duke era you'd know he was so ****ed up on cocaine and other drugs, nothing he said can be held against him. Born This Way > Joanne > The Fame Monster > The Fame > ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, ARTPOPdidntflop said: I'm obviously sorry that he's passed, but I'm not going to put him on a pedastool and pretend like he's done nothing wrong. david bowie was a pedophile which a lot forget but also remember that he called himself the ‘aryan superman’ and said britain needed another hitler and gave the nazi salute and also made the racist ass squinting eyes in china girl and tbh that entire song is racist af like why are we honestly still talking about david bowie The context is so different. There has to be a margin of error when looking at what a high rock star said nearly five ****ing decades ago. You're looking at things with presentism. I'm sure there are things we say all the time that are accepted now because we haven't gotten to perfect understanding yet but will be looked at as "shaky" and "offensive in 2070. It doesn't mean our intentions are driven by hatred. Your opinion suggests people or cultures don't evolve and that we should pretty much focus on the flaws of the past rather than learn and accept them. No one is perfect. P.S. all those rape allegations are allegations. And because the man is dead and there is no literal proof you should have kept your horribly worded and terribly timed opinion to yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobster 14,604 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, ChasingGhosts said: The comment about Hitler being one of the first rock stars is intresting and quite true tbh. Though if you've seen Bowie during the Thin White Duke era you'd know he was so ****ed up on cocaine and other drugs, nothing he said can be held against him. Would you care to elaborate? But I'm only a man and I do what I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 109,276 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Just now, ARTPOPdidntflop said: I'm obviously sorry that he's passed, but I'm not going to put him on a pedastool and pretend like he's done nothing wrong. david bowie was a pedophile which a lot forget but also remember that he called himself the ‘aryan superman’ and said britain needed another hitler and gave the nazi salute and also made the racist ass squinting eyes in china girl and tbh that entire song is racist af like why are we honestly still talking about david bowie Well, if you wanna take it that way, Whitney was drug abuser, so does Elvis. And John Lennon were doing tons of domestic violence against women, and to his first wife and emotionally abused his son. And they are dead, people bury the hatchet, and celebrated them, and rightly so, because they made mean music. It is your choice to judge him the way you do of course, but give space to people who wanted to mourns for him if you please. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢, 𝘥𝘪𝘥𝘯'𝘵 (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ゼレミ ノヴェリノ 370 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 mmm I can smell the haters rejoicing to attack and shade hapoor Gaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clefable 296 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 50 minutes ago, SISTERV said: Are you insinuating David Bowie was racist and a rapist? Are YOU OUT OF YOUR ****ING MIND? To quote Gaga: "If we were in a bar in New York, you would have had your ****ING lights knocked out." How dare you? What a disgusting thing to say just to provoke attention. The man is dead. **** you. Also, sorry to anyone who like myself was a huge Bowie fan and saw what will probably be the dumbest post on GGD ever. This ****ing pain in the ass excuse for a fan really made me angry as ****. there are accounts of him having sex with girls under the age of 17 but im not sure of rapist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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