msquare91 1 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) Why is it when any pop girl says something remotely controversial, there are two equally annoying responses. One reads as much shade into it as possible, personalizes what isn't directed at any person, and delights in the supposed cattiness. The other group is all "Oh no, they should shut up, not have any opinions or answer back ever." Same phenomena when Lorde was making comments about trends in song lyrics. Edited October 20, 2013 by craig Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adakam 2 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I'm not saying she's shading Madonna or Katy or anyone, I'm saying that this "habit" of always reading and watching what people or critics say about is getting old. She's said multiple times she doesn't care and STILL this only shows she actually cares. I really don't see the point. She is successful, beautiful, amazing songwriter and singer. She doesn't need to do this, just shows how insecure she is about everything, opposed to what she stated months ago about how she is a grown woman and doesn't need anyone (including her monsters) to defend her and blablabla. She shouldn't mind what other people say, it creates a barrier between herself and her work, because the limits and prejudices establish barries in the creative process and also creates this "box" in which she says she doesn't want to be put in in pop music. Instead of creating songs and mature statements she still writes about what other people think about. Just grow up and leave the bad thoughts behind. Born This way was the perfect moment to write about the critics (and she did it perfectly in songs like Hair, BTW, Scheisse, bad kids), not ARTPOP which is supposed to be a step further in her artistic directions. I don't know... I don't buy it. Depends on how you see it, I see it the other way around, with this she is like saying "no matter what, or who attacks me, you'll never hurt me and bring me down" She focused on all the main hater phrases, the ones that are supposed to hurt her and her fanbase the most, she just rendered those phrases useless, how can anyone look smart ever again, calling her "reductive", when she just proved that it doesn't hurt her. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiuga 1,904 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 A marketing genius! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorde 0 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Very messy... "I write for the music not for the charts". Is this why Gaga is tweeting to promote DWUW? What happened to stop the drama, start the music? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) Depends on how you see it, I see it the other way around, with this she is like saying "no matter what, or who attacks me, you'll never hurt me and bring me down" She focused on all the main hater phrases, the ones that are supposed to hurt her and her fanbase the most, she just rendered those phrases useless, how can anyone look smart ever again, calling her "reductive", when she just proved that it doesn't hurt her. I sort of agree, by mocking those tired old slanders she makes them less powerful and serious. She's not fat anymore. Only a moron would believe the dick rumour. The idea that Madonna invented ponytails and every pop girl is copying her is just about as silly. And the Gaga is satanic notion is linked to the crazy Westboro lady. Edited October 20, 2013 by craig Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rivingtonrebels 245 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I sort of agree, by mocking those tired old slanders she makes them less powerful and serious. She's not fat anymore. Only a moron would believe the dick rumour. The idea that Madonna invented ponytails and every pop girl is copying her is just about as silly. And the Gaga is satanic idea that linked to the crazy Westboro lady. You nailed it imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Very messy... "I write for the music not for the charts". Is this why Gaga is tweeting to promote DWUW? Cause WRITING for the music, doing her own thing artistically, doesn't mean she doesn't care about success or promotion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
judaslover 0 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Yes, DWUW later tonight, excited. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Eyes 1,882 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 In a series of tweets she explained the underlying meaning of DWUW. Good god this woman we stan for. This. You cannot deny that she has shed a whole new light on that song for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani328 321 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I just so excited for DWUW., tonight. I have to do homework and then I'm coming back to be slayed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwerk 6,513 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 That d--gs tweet tho, wtf? She's addicted to weed? I rly dont get it. Addiction in general is her biggest demon. She seems very addiction prone, wether it is c-----e/alcohol/weed/food/applause/work...it can rule her 'world' sometimes, maybe making her feel like she's not in control. Like her weightstruggle that still haunts her since her teens. She probably worries about one 'addiction' replacing the other or ever falling back into bad habbits. According to Gaga I'm a ****ing rad bitch Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,092 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 If she is shading, and if it a promotional ploy set up by her label or someone to gain sales, that would be a sad tactic. To gain sales in the short term, part of her brand could be damaged ... the brand of being a kind person who doesn't shade. I don't agree with this tactic, if that is indeed what is going on. One thing she is admired for is her character. I live outside the space time continuum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 40,912 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Why is it when any pop girl says something remotely controversial, there are two equally annoying responses. One reads as much shade into it as possible, personalizes what isn't directed at any person, and delights in the supposed cattiness. The other group is all "Oh no, they should shut up, not have any opinions or answer back ever." Same phenomena when Lorde was making comments about trends in song lyrics. On the first case there are this group of people trying to stir more drama / material for 'dragging' the other pop girl team (I see this as sport teams looking for some sort of 'receipts' to clapback others when their team doesn't win a game / match expectations etc), and on the other case there's these groups of 'managers' who thinks what a popstar should or shouldn't do with their lives / careers, giving too much importance into the smallest things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth 450 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 She's not actually shading people though is she? I was shocked to see all those tweets when I did this morning but I like it. It'll be interesting to see the lyrics of the song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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