gagzus 21,423 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 13 minutes ago, Sneaky Oliver said: I’m a queer POC as well (and also a latino) but my favorite artists are like Lady Gaga and Lana Del Rey, both white American women but I don’t stan them solely because they’re white and I never stopped myself from stanning a black artist because they’re black it just happened organically, I think this is a little overthinking about the whole process of admiring your icons I don’t personally think that it’s overthinking, in human society we naturally have bias towards people who look like us. Asking the question is alright but the response it got is absolutely just racist bias. Saying that she doesn’t need diversity because it would be “forced” is just as racist of a viewpoint as “there MUST be diversity at all costs” — people are pedantic and don’t understand nuance online, so questioning it for further nuance is a good thing. White people don’t like to be confronted with the fact we’re a majority and become defensive about questions of that fact because WE question racial minority representation and scrutinise it. Like how people scrutinise making fictional characters black etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamo 20,354 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 (edited) 6 hours ago, Sneaky Oliver said: I’m a queer POC as well (and also a latino) but my favorite artists are like Lady Gaga and Lana Del Rey, both white American women but I don’t stan them solely because they’re white and I never stopped myself from stanning a black artist because they’re black it just happened organically, I think this is a little overthinking about the whole process of admiring your icons 6 hours ago, gagzus said: I think she meant one that has the cultural impact that lasts, because obviously Warhol’s banana cover is a cultural moment. It introduced non-artsy people to PopArt and it literally inspired modern art as a concept to the point someone taped a banana to the wall at a museum in honour of it. We won’t know if any of those have lasting cultural impact for decades yet. And it’s ok if she doesn’t have one of that level yet, barely anybody does since the 70s The fact is that my original comment wasn't solely about race, even though that seems to be the main point of contention. It was also about gender and other types of representation. And quite frankly, I'm shocked and saddened by other members continued reaction in another recently opened thread who are mocking my initial comment. My initial thoughts were: why choose three white men exclusively when there are countless qualified and just as talented, iconic and trailblazing women and POC artists and visionaries who could just as easily occupy the same role? Given that white men have historically held and continue to hold a disproportionate share of influence, visibility, and power at the top levels of society, media, and many industries, it seems reasonable to ask why other representation wasn't considered. The issue isn't that those individuals are white men; it's that when selections repeatedly default to the same demographic group, it raises questions about whose voices are being elevated and whose are being overlooked. If some people would rather dismiss that point with mockery than engage with it in good faith, that tells its own story. Edited June 2 by mamo Ï could be your girlfriend for the weekend... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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