Ziggy 13,144 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, NibbCub said: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/liza-minnelli-lady-gaga-memory-test-cocaine-affair-scorsese-1236528072/ This mess of a url slug lmfaooo 9 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 3,051 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 at most i rly think this is a huge miscommunication did gaga maybe be a little to protective over liza?? sure but she just dealt with tony and it’s not a justification but it deff makes sense i think if anything and at most liza felt hurt and ykno that doesn’t sell but that seems to be the resounding sentiments and idk how the producers felt or the director of the oscar’s but i can’t say i place all the blame on gaga if she is at fault so are the people behind the scenes. i think this is a just two friends that rly just misunderstood each other at the time and the best thing for them to do is just talk it out 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFrenchGuy 4,138 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 49 minutes ago, LadyxGaGa said: at most i rly think this is a huge miscommunication did gaga maybe be a little to protective over liza?? sure but she just dealt with tony and it’s not a justification but it deff makes sense i think if anything and at most liza felt hurt and ykno that doesn’t sell but that seems to be the resounding sentiments and idk how the producers felt or the director of the oscar’s but i can’t say i place all the blame on gaga if she is at fault so are the people behind the scenes. i think this is a just two friends that rly just misunderstood each other at the time and the best thing for them to do is just talk it out My guess is that the producers briefed Gaga beforehand and made it seem like Liza needed a lot more support than she actually did. She was probably told that Liza was not doing well, and therefore agreed that the wheelchair was the safest option. Gaga took care of her in a way she genuinely thought was helpful and kind. The issue is a lack of direct communication between Liza and Gaga, with zero ill intent. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 13,441 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 4 hours ago, NibbCub said: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/liza-minnelli-lady-gaga-memory-test-cocaine-affair-scorsese-1236528072/ How does she expect an apology when she didn't tell Gaga that it bothered her? Gaga's not psychic the meow in zombieboy 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasagna 3,137 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 i get lizas perspective. i've a lot of older relatives and in the past theyve gotten understandably incredibly annoyed when people have tried to make them do things for their own safety or benefit. it must feel infantilizing and humiliating, even if you dont intend it to be and you're just looking out for them. having said that i do think gagas intentions were good. gagas a theatre kid shes not going to seek out to humiliate liza ****ing minnelli of all people 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 12,875 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Listen. It is Liza. Let's all clap and laugh and relish in the moment that an icon we love has an interesting story involving a legend and move on. This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatfoxyfeeling 13,359 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 3 hours ago, rinasawachanta said: Don't forget lmao So it's fabricated by a sad bitter queen and we can move on? Close the thread and sue his ass. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alxjcgn 1,755 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 4 hours ago, ****oDanceFight said: Liza literally references this moment in the book and how she felt that her moment with Gaga on the Oscars stage is a 180 from this moment they had in 2011. I don't think its fair to downplay how Liza feels about what happened at the Oscars simply because she's older, which only goes to further prove the point in her memoir. We can say its embellished or that it was a misunderstanding, but it doesn't or shouldn't take away from the fact that Gaga condescended and patronized her due to her age. We can go back and forth about whether it was a misunderstanding or an issue with production, but we shouldn't minimize Liza's feelings. Ah sorry I didn't realize this moment was also mentioned Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagasdisease 325 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 5 hours ago, SidewalkUnicorn said: This smells fishy to me. What would Gaga have gotten out of her going home if the goal was to act the hero? I just…I’m sorry. I know I’m a fan, but I’m also a realist and everyone has flaws. I totally can buy that Liza felt patronized by Gaga if she was being hyper vigilant or just not reading the room. Gaga can be a little awkward at times. But saying Liza would be better off going home? Mmm. Not buying it. Totally, I can see Gaga being vocal about her "worries" for Liza's health but she'd never "force" anyone to be in a wheelchair, that's ridiculous... She's been in the game too long to pull this kind of stuff behind the cameras, and it'd be very out of character. Maybe some producer told Liza something along those lines about Gaga, just to try to convince her to use the wheelchair and exaggerated or something... You can visibly see that she's not doing so good so she just looks desperate for validation and tbh it's just sad... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheARTPOPball 1,181 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 On 3/12/2026 at 7:03 AM, Defmix100 said: she mentions the video of them talking with each other Yeah which is exactly why it’s so confusing to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmix100 6,792 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 39 minutes ago, TheARTPOPball said: Yeah which is exactly why it’s so confusing to me just sounds like it's her way of biting her tongue instead of getting into an argument 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaplayer315 14,540 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Another bitter old lady using Gaga's name for engagement Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 39,808 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) New article from the Hollywood Reporter potentially vindicates the theory that Feinstein heavily editorialized much of her memoir and that, in spite of her protestations, Liza does not appear to be in good health or of sound mind. (Not intended to be shady to Liza, more critical of Feinstein’s exploitation). Also offers important context: even if the recounting of the event in the memoir is accurate, if Liza was in anything resembling this condition at the Oscars, could you really blame Gaga for being uneasy and trying to manage the situation as best she could? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/liza-minnelli-book-event-michael-feinstein-los-angeles-1236537467/ “At Liza Minnelli Book Event, the Story Onstage Didn’t Match the One in the Book As clips of her electrifying prime played and a polished audiobook voice filled the room, the EGOT winner’s halting live appearance — guided by Michael Feinstein — revealed a striking disconnect… Minnelli, now 80, appeared physically fragile and struggled to communicate in a way that often left both her interviewer and the audience grasping for clarity. Answers came haltingly, sometimes in fragments or single words. “No,” she said when asked if she thinks about her legacy… The most striking moment came when music entered the picture. Minnelli, whose identity is inseparable from performance, was meant to sing. Feinstein played “Love is Here to Stay,” a standard by George and Ira Gershwin, at a grand piano. After a strong opening, the song went off track. Minnelli appeared unable to recall the lyrics, the moment dissolving into something closer to a gesture than a number. Which brings Feinstein’s role into sharper focus. He is credited as a co-author of the memoir, appears in a black-and-white photograph with Minnelli on its back cover, and is frequently referenced throughout the book, in addition to writing its introduction. Positioned as interviewer onstage, he functioned as something more expansive: a stabilizing presence, a narrative guide — perhaps even a kind of proxy for the version of Minnelli presented elsewhere. In the memoir, Minnelli recounts her appearance at the Academy Awards alongside Lady Gaga, framing the moment as one in which she felt exposed or humiliated. Seen in the context of this evening — where her ability to track conversation and performance cues appeared inconsistent — the question inevitably arises: how reliable are those recollections, and where does personal perception blur into something less stable?” Edited March 18 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFrenchGuy 4,138 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: New article from the Hollywood Reporter potentially vindicates the theory that Feinstein heavily editorialized much of her memoir and that, in spite of her protestations, Liza does not appear to be in good health or of sound mind. (Not intended to be shady to Liza, more critical of Feinstein’s exploitation). Also offers important context: even if the recounting of the event in the memoir is accurate, if Liza was in anything resembling this condition at the Oscars, could you really blame Gaga for being uneasy and trying to manage the situation as best she could? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/liza-minnelli-book-event-michael-feinstein-los-angeles-1236537467/ “At Liza Minnelli Book Event, the Story Onstage Didn’t Match the One in the Book As clips of her electrifying prime played and a polished audiobook voice filled the room, the EGOT winner’s halting live appearance — guided by Michael Feinstein — revealed a striking disconnect… Minnelli, now 80, appeared physically fragile and struggled to communicate in a way that often left both her interviewer and the audience grasping for clarity. Answers came haltingly, sometimes in fragments or single words. “No,” she said when asked if she thinks about her legacy… The most striking moment came when music entered the picture. Minnelli, whose identity is inseparable from performance, was meant to sing. Feinstein played “Love is Here to Stay,” a standard by George and Ira Gershwin, at a grand piano. After a strong opening, the song went off track. Minnelli appeared unable to recall the lyrics, the moment dissolving into something closer to a gesture than a number. Which brings Feinstein’s role into sharper focus. He is credited as a co-author of the memoir, appears in a black-and-white photograph with Minnelli on its back cover, and is frequently referenced throughout the book, in addition to writing its introduction. Positioned as interviewer onstage, he functioned as something more expansive: a stabilizing presence, a narrative guide — perhaps even a kind of proxy for the version of Minnelli presented elsewhere. In the memoir, Minnelli recounts her appearance at the Academy Awards alongside Lady Gaga, framing the moment as one in which she felt exposed or humiliated. Seen in the context of this evening — where her ability to track conversation and performance cues appeared inconsistent — the question inevitably arises: how reliable are those recollections, and where does personal perception blur into something less stable?” That whole promo tour is shady TBH. AI narration, weird AI "song" to promote the book, they use a lot of archival footage, her rare appearances are extremely controlled. I love Liza so so much but something seems off with the way things are handled. She's either being stretched thin by her team or she's truly not able to go on with it. In any case, she's an absolute legend but at times it feels like they are trying to make as much money as possible off her back while she's still alive... Edited March 18 by TheFrenchGuy 1 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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