27monster27 15,290 Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, nATAH said: if gaga has an objectively bad performance, this one fills that boot the most but that's only because a huge majority of her performances are great/superb to a high professional standard that's been deeply rehearsed however this one feels rushed, messy, last minute and unedited. compare this to her recent grammy's performance which was literally last minute and rushed but pulled off incredibly well (bar some awkward camera shots) and with a more positive mindset towards music and her career, knowing what we know now about that period between ARTPOP and joanne i think this performance just needed editing, it needed more time for them to take out what wasn't needed for a less is more approach but i imagine they absolutely didn't have the time given the circumstances and amount of technology involved that they had hyped up prior Yeah it is true that this performance definitely was rushed which I will agree with, though for the 2010 Brits and the recent Grammys and Superbowl she was able to work in a rush very well. I agree that the whole tech set-up they had must've been hard to work around for a quicker change. he/him/his Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 54,338 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, 27monster27 said: Yeah it is true that this performance definitely was rushed which I will agree with, though for the 2010 Brits and the recent Grammys and Superbowl she was able to work in a rush very well. I agree that the whole tech set-up they had must've been hard to work around for a quicker change. that's why i class it as one of her worst, because the fact it was rushed is super obvious even to a casual fan/viewer the grammys only us super fans know it was a rushed job purely because we know her schedule (and that one article) but it was so well done, you wouldn't be able to tell unless you hyper criticised the camera movements mother, what must i do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinasawachanta 3,393 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 13 hours ago, rinasawachanta said: This is an issue that is always on my mind. I agree with most of the points, but I would like to emphasize one issue: as a general rule, the misogyny directed at Gaga is more intense. By this I mean that the problem is not being a woman in a position of “power” or centrality, but rather being a woman who holds such a position without giving up qualities associated with femininity. That is why, from my point of view, Madonna is not subject to the same kind of misogyny, because she has qualities and even an “energy” that are much more masculine. In that sense, Gaga ends up being the target of hatred from both men and women who perceive her as a threat (the other woman who could be more attractive, more feminine, more elegant, sexier), which doesn't usually happen with Madonna. I've seen this SO MUCH throughout my life that it's become a law of nature, haha. I can elaborate on this point if anyone would like me to. I'll elaborate on this idea a little more. This question of “energy” that I refer to is linked to what is perceived as authentic or forced. The masculine is associated with the authentic, the genuine, the real, without makeup. As if it simply flowed from the pores. In contrast, the feminine refers to the theatrical, exaggerated, affected, ornamental, decorated... This gender divide extends to musical genres themselves and determines the rock/pop dichotomy referred to in the OP. I do believe that misogyny is distributed unevenly and does not affect all women or any woman in the same way. Those who do not relinquish the attributes and qualities culturally assigned as feminine are more directly targeted, and in more massive ways. That is why Gaga receives more misogyny (try it for yourselves and you will be surprised: she is a figure who leaves no one indifferent, and who can be the object of hatred both by men and, much more obviously and significantly, by other women who perceive her as a threat capable of stealing the limelight and attention—ultimately, from other men 🫠). It is a similar case to what happens with female politicians who occupy a position of power without giving up their femininity versus those who do (I could cite more than one example). Edited February 17 by rinasawachanta Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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