Taylor Swift Is Critized, Even By Her Own Fans, For Her Silence On ICE

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23 minutes ago, brizoda said:

Has Beyonce said something about ICE ?

No, she’s not promoting anything rn

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1 hour ago, brizoda said:

Has Beyonce said something about ICE ?

No, she probably won’t. 
 

She also never addressed the whole controversy when she wore that Buffalo Soldier’s T-shirt that basically said Native Americans were “enemies of peace, order, and settlement”. 
 

She has done great things for black Americans and that’s admirable but she clearly doesn’t give a **** about anyone else.

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12 minutes ago, RaveMonster said:

No, she probably won’t. 
 

She also never addressed the whole controversy when she wore that Buffalo Soldier’s T-shirt that basically said Native Americans were “enemies of peace, order, and settlement”. 
 

She has done great things for black Americans and that’s admirable but she clearly doesn’t give a **** about anyone else.

Same as so many celebrities from minority backgrounds sadly.

Get to the top and pull the ladder up behind you.

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That is because Taylor is a Republican who happened to vote Democrat.

 

Yall know these Republicans? They exist. They are the wealthy rich gays at the club who never bring up their politics. They are the the "moderates" who vote Democrat when they need to but also "see the Republican side". They are the ones that are Democrats in their "wild 20s" but then in their 30s get close to mom and dad again and become Republicans again.

 

Taylor Swift, is one of these Republicans. 

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Taylor made a few left-leaning statements and referenced gay culture in 2019 and everyone thought she was their hero

Mind you she did all of this when she perceived her career to be slipping during/post-Reputation

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12 minutes ago, TEANUS said:

Taylor made a few left-leaning statements and referenced gay culture in 2019 and everyone thought she was their hero

Mind you she did all of this when she perceived her career to be slipping during/post-Reputation

Literally. Taylor's slight move to the left was what all women have done for the past fifty years when their career starts to show instability: pander to the gay male community.

 

Not gonna lie it works everytime.

 

THE ONLY reason Gaga get's a pass is because from DAY ONE she was an open and avid supporter and she literally probably polarized people and shrinked her own peak by making an album like Born This Way. So she get's a pass.

But yeah....this times 100. 

Taylor Swift did the equivalent what a girl with a problematic boyfriend does to their gay best friend: ignore them, until the straight boyfriend betrays them, and then go crying to the gay. The gays always fall for it. It's actually kind of sad and it is one way I would say if any that gay men kinda get exploited and used to this day.

Matter fact if I had to do a paper on this, I would cite "You Need to Calm Down" as one of the most blatantly obvious examples of straight women doing this. She literally called whoever the trendy popular lgbtq people were in WeHo and said come join my video and they all jumped on it because it was her. Half those people aren't even really gay icons. If she was someone who really cared about gay culture she wouldn't have made such a cheesy video on an issue she largely ignored. 

Does anyone else know what type of girl I am talking about? They are always like....back burnering their gay friend and when they need to have fun suddenly seem interested in gay culture, but aren't there for any of the important stuff...

That is precisely the type of pro-gay I think Taylor Swift is and because I have standards, no, she does not meet the basic requirements of an ally to me. 

Edited February 6 by LGAte

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please can we direct this energy to the lawmakers and representatives, and not our pop stars?

what the hell is she going to do? is she going to sing her first album off key to drive ICE out of Minneapolis? 

She's not the only person in entertainment promoting something at the moment. Movies are being released, TV shows are airing, books are coming out... This "how dare she" attitude of her doing her job is a bit extreme. 

I find value in celebrities speaking up for a cause when they HAVE something articulate to say, but strong-arming a celebrity into saying "ICE bad" seems like superficial-level activism to me. People should be able to use their brain for political matters without needing the girl on the radio telling them how to feel, it's part of being a member of society.

Edited February 7 by timdrake

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20 minutes ago, LGAte said:

Literally. Taylor's slight move to the left was what all women have done for the past fifty years when their career starts to show instability: pander to the gay male community.

 

Not gonna lie it works everytime.

 

THE ONLY reason Gaga get's a pass is because from DAY ONE she was an open and avid supporter and she literally probably polarized people and shrinked her own peak by making an album like Born This Way. So she get's a pass.

But yeah....this times 100. 

Taylor Swift did the equivalent what a girl with a problematic boyfriend does to their gay best friend: ignore them, until the straight boyfriend betrays them, and then go crying to the gay. The gays always fall for it. It's actually kind of sad and it is one way I would say if any that gay men kinda get exploited and used to this day.

Matter fact if I had to do a paper on this, I would cite "You Need to Calm Down" as one of the most blatantly obvious examples of straight women doing this. She literally called whoever the trendy popular lgbtq people were in WeHo and said come join my video and they all jumped on it because it was her. Half those people aren't even really gay icons. If she was someone who really cared about gay culture she wouldn't have made such a cheesy video on an issue she largely ignored. 

Does anyone else know what type of girl I am talking about? They are always like....back burnering their gay friend and when they need to have fun suddenly seem interested in gay culture, but aren't there for any of the important stuff...

That is precisely the type of pro-gay I think Taylor Swift is and because I have standards, no, she does not meet the basic requirements of an ally to me. 

PREACH on YNTCD. Some of my BIGGEST ex-Taylor friends IRL only drew the line when her/Travis hung out with their red-leaning friends. I told them, idk why you ever thought she cared about this community in the first place - calling her “mother” and such as if she bred any kind of further acceptance or love for us. All she did was tout “I’m for the gays, see!!” at the lowest point of her career

Edited February 7 by TEANUS

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1 hour ago, Bronco said:

Same as so many celebrities from minority backgrounds sadly.

Get to the top and pull the ladder up behind you.

crabs in the bucket every last one of them 

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58 minutes ago, timdrake said:

please can we direct this energy to the lawmakers and representatives, and not our pop stars?

what the hell is she going to do? is she going to sing her first album off key to drive ICE out of Minneapolis? 

She's not the only person in entertainment promoting something at the moment. Movies are being released, TV shows are airing, books are coming out... This "how dare she" attitude of her doing her job is a bit extreme. 

I find value in celebrities speaking up for a cause when they HAVE something articulate to say, but strong-arming a celebrity into saying "ICE bad" seems like superficial-level activism to me. People should be able to use their brain for political matters without needing the girl on the radio telling them how to feel, it's part of being a member of society.

This is a bad take. 

We should always put pressure on people who ask us for our money to prove if they are worthy of our money, labor, and attention. Regardless of the outcome.

It's not about it always being some political strategy. It's about who I align with.

Some people find art and music to have more meaning. And the person I listen to- I know I am not gonna agree with everyone on everything- but fundamentals like human rights, racism, homophobia and transphobia, classism, etc.....these things are very very concerning to me as an empathetic person and I don't want to be slipping down any pipelines with people who are attracted to/aligning themselves/shrugging at Trump.

Say something. If you can't, we are at the point now where you are actively choosing to help Trump. Not saying anything helps their system. Do you not get that? 

It's not just a neutral thing to not say anything anymore. If you have a huge platform where you ask the public to support you- then show some ****ing respect for the public.

When did this become an extremist take? 

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5 hours ago, Borisapillar said:

y'all need to accept who that woman is and always will be

This, but also: keep on putting pressure on her and her team to tarnish her image. She should be ashamed and embarrassed.

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2 hours ago, LGAte said:

This is a bad take. 

We should always put pressure on people who ask us for our money to prove if they are worthy of our money, labor, and attention. Regardless of the outcome.

It's not about it always being some political strategy. It's about who I align with.

Some people find art and music to have more meaning. And the person I listen to- I know I am not gonna agree with everyone on everything- but fundamentals like human rights, racism, homophobia and transphobia, classism, etc.....these things are very very concerning to me as an empathetic person and I don't want to be slipping down any pipelines with people who are attracted to/aligning themselves/shrugging at Trump.

Say something. If you can't, we are at the point now where you are actively choosing to help Trump. Not saying anything helps their system. Do you not get that? 

It's not just a neutral thing to not say anything anymore. If you have a huge platform where you ask the public to support you- then show some ****ing respect for the public.

When did this become an extremist take? 

I respect your opinion and see where you're coming from, but I don't think it's fair to call mine "bad" because it's different from yours. 

I hate unhealthy celebrity worship. Artists are still human beings who provide a service in art, music, merchandise, experiences, etc, and their compensation comes in the money that there fans spend on them. It's a very realistic, capitalist, cold way to look at art, but it's true. We are not OWED their explicit political, philosophical, sexual, religious, personal thoughts and feelings outside of what they offer to share. There are so many parasocial attitudes these days that we need to know the ins-and-outs of people who already have limited privacy. Fans shouldn't be worshipping artists so hardcore like that. They can use their energy more constructively elsewhere.

You are free to not support someone like Taylor Swift or Beyonce because you don't like their lack of political commentary. I just take issue with people trying to force them to say something, and I don't agree that it's "helping Trump" if they don't comment on every issue. The president has literally posted that he hates Taylor Swift in response to her opposition to him... do you think anyone in that cult is going to cancel their Opalite vinyl, or change their opinion and switch sides if she says "f*ck ICE"? 

Don't get me wrong, it's incredible when someone DOES authentically speak for a cause. Knowing Lady Gaga was genuinely supportive of gays felt like a hug when I listened to her, and looking back at Elizabeth Taylor's passion for AIDS research is one of the best examples of care for humanity. We're just not going to get that out of everyone.

Personally I just don't look to musicians or actors for matters like this. Put the real pressure on the people you've voted into office on all levels, that's who is more likely to get things done.. I just hope everyone who spends time tweeting at celebrities to say something spends AT LEAST that much time engaging with their local representatives. 

(and like... Taylor barely ever speaks out on social issues, so she's a really bad artist to follow if you like pop stars who speak out. I thought we all knew this already. Don't support her if she's not for you.)

Edited February 7 by timdrake

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i literally cant get behind tay for this reason

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1 hour ago, LGAte said:

This is a bad take. 

We should always put pressure on people who ask us for our money to prove if they are worthy of our money, labor, and attention. Regardless of the outcome.

It's not about it always being some political strategy. It's about who I align with.

Some people find art and music to have more meaning. And the person I listen to- I know I am not gonna agree with everyone on everything- but fundamentals like human rights, racism, homophobia and transphobia, classism, etc.....these things are very very concerning to me as an empathetic person and I don't want to be slipping down any pipelines with people who are attracted to/aligning themselves/shrugging at Trump.

Say something. If you can't, we are at the point now where you are actively choosing to help Trump. Not saying anything helps their system. Do you not get that? 

It's not just a neutral thing to not say anything anymore. If you have a huge platform where you ask the public to support you- then show some ****ing respect for the public.

When did this become an extremist take? 

I agree with this except for the implication this take (and I've seen it a lot) that Taylor and other celebrities should be getting equal hate with politicians, billionaires, and etc. withing those types.

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Tbh Gaga could do more, and I love her DOWNNNN.