gfer1990 56 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Just now, andy232000 said: Well if you wanna go ahead and lose sleep over that I’m not gonna stop you! To me the world isn’t black and white like that Look, I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but it's the only answer I can come up with. The problem is that you Americans and Europeans continue to think you're the center of the world, the only ones capable of hosting events and concerts, the only ones with the infrastructure and money, the only educated fans. You need to be a little more humble and open a map to see that the world is bigger and more diverse than you think. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 30,766 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 1 hour ago, gfer1990 said: Sorry, I know the topic here is Gaga, but I was the one discussing how Gaga treats her Latin fans. Many here thought it was silly, but it didn't take 24 hours for my point to be proven. Today, Ariana Grande, who was only coming for the premiere of Wicked, posted a lame excuse on Instagram saying she couldn't come. The truth is that most of them look down on Latin America. Not only do they leave the region out of their tours, but their merchandise is only available in the US and Europe, and makeup brands never come here. It seems like we're only good for engaging on social media and listening on Spotify. Again, Ariana not coming only further proves that it’s likely a logistical issue. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 30,766 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 13 minutes ago, gfer1990 said: Look, I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but it's the only answer I can come up with. The problem is that you Americans and Europeans continue to think you're the center of the world, the only ones capable of hosting events and concerts, the only ones with the infrastructure and money, the only educated fans. You need to be a little more humble and open a map to see that the world is bigger and more diverse than you think. “It’s very logistically difficult for big American/European acts to tour Latin America” ”Oh, so you think we’re peasants? Disgusting savages? You think you’re better than me?” This is literally what you sound like. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfer1990 56 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 4 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Again, Ariana not coming only further proves that it’s likely a logistical issue. Yes, logistical problems and unforeseen events always happen by chance only in Latin America. Does anyone believe that Ariana Grande can't charter a private jet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 30,766 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Just now, gfer1990 said: Yes, logistical problems and unforeseen events always happen by chance only in Latin America. Does anyone believe that Ariana Grande can't charter a private jet? Again, if you want to believe it’s you vs. the world, that’s your prerogative. Awfully lonely and deeply cynical, but I wish you well. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfer1990 56 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Just now, Ladle Ghoulash said: “It’s very logistically difficult for big American/European acts to tour Latin America” ”Oh, so you think we’re peasants? Disgusting savages? You think you’re better than me?” This is literally what you sound like. Great, I won't even need to elaborate because yes, that's exactly what you think of us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 30,766 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 1 minute ago, gfer1990 said: Great, I won't even need to elaborate because yes, that's exactly what you think of us. Again, classic confirmation bias. Thank you for proving my point. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 14,288 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 16 hours ago, Elizabeth said: I'd rather she did the Etihad stadium in Manchester than Anfield, I don't know why a lot of artists seem to be booking there as of late. Anyway regardless of venue, if this turns out to be true I will be there The Etihad isn't available as it's undergoing renovation works for another season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanlittlem 47,298 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 I would love to get an extension of the tour but not in stadiums please. The US is getting them in arenas as well so can we keep that? Estàvem al cel, ara estem a l'infern 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfer1990 56 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 2 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Again, if you want to believe it’s you vs. the world, that’s your prerogative. Awfully lonely and deeply cynical, but I wish you well. See how right I am? Do you think I'm picking a fight all by myself? What do I want to do against the world? Ask most of the Latinos on this forum or in the fandoms. Once again, you need to stop thinking you're the center of the world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 30,766 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 (edited) 2 minutes ago, gfer1990 said: See how right I am? Do you think I'm picking a fight all by myself? What do I want to do against the world? Ask most of the Latinos on this forum or in the fandoms. Once again, you need to stop thinking you're the center of the world. Confirmation bias all the way down, diva. Edited November 4 by Ladle Ghoulash We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 14,288 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 (edited) 13 minutes ago, gfer1990 said: Yes, logistical problems and unforeseen events always happen by chance only in Latin America. Does anyone believe that Ariana Grande can't charter a private jet? Chartering a private jet isn't the issue. The issue is getting clearance forms processed at speed and securing an available flight slot. The US government is shutdown at the moment - none of the workers in the aviation sector are being paid. At the start of the week it was reported that half of the 30 major US airports have staff shortages which is leading to delays at all US airports and widespread flight cancellations. On friday 6,200 flights were delayed. This weekend, 4,500 flights were delayed on Saturday and 500 cancelled. In NYC - home to some of the busiest airports in the US, 80% of air traffic control staff are absent from work as they take up alternative work to ensure they get a paycheck. 3.2 million air passengers had delayed or cancelled flights this weekend. 2,9000 flights were delayed yesterday alone. 79% of delays and cancellations on Monday were due to staff shortages in ATC. Like, even if they were able to pay over the odds for fast processing etc there's no staff for people to pay to speed the process up lol Edited November 4 by Bronco 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth 592 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 5 minutes ago, Bronco said: The Etihad isn't available as it's undergoing renovation works for another season. There are concerts already booked in for summer 2026 though, Take That and The Weeknd are confirmed. Only reason I can think she couldn’t do there is because Oasis are rumoured and they’d 1000% take priority for the booking! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto95 34 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Can y'all please fight about the constant LATAM snub (which is a fair and serious topic) under another topic? I was trying to see if anyone had some info about the actual matter of this topic and it was impossible because you changed the subject 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfer1990 56 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 5 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Confirmation bias all the way down, diva. Well, I see it's better to stop here. Arguing with Americans and Europeans is very difficult, you have trouble understanding. You manage to invalidate the opinions of an entire region in fact, you've been doing this for centuries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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