faysalaaa 3,032 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 3 minutes ago, FATCAT said: The audience score that anyone can add to? That’s the one you want to take seriously? I’m not saying it’s perfect, I'm just saying that it not being appreciated today doesn’t mean it isn’t good. The Shining was hated back in the day. Blade Runner, Fight Club, 2001, all seen as cult classics now but hated and disregarded in their day. Joker 2 will have its moment to shine, it just won’t be today. The argument of it will have its shine in the future usually apply to artistic work the are misunderstood and ahead of its time. This movie is not misunderstood or ahead of its time, its just a movie that doesnt know its own audience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers 28,128 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 1 minute ago, FATCAT said: The audience score that anyone can add to? That’s the one you want to take seriously? I’m not saying it’s perfect, I'm just saying that it not being appreciated today doesn’t mean it isn’t good. The Shining was hated back in the day. Blade Runner, Fight Club, 2001, all seen as cult classics now but hated and disregarded in their day. Joker 2 will have its moment to shine, it just won’t be today. Yup, that audience score. I use RT all the time, and for years. The audience is almost always higher than the critics score. Because people usually enjoy movies. Critics score 33% (295+ verified ratings) , Audience score 31% (2500+ verified ratings) This isn't a bunch of Katy Kats coming for Lady Gaga. This is a movie that the general audiences are not enjoying. When you read the reviews, people are not blaming Gaga. If anything they say she was under utilised and too restrained. I kind of wonder what is wrong with people who get their egos tied up in charts and reviews and ratings. Remember to like and subscribe, and click on the bell icon to get the latest updates 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 59,008 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 16 minutes ago, faysalaaa said: The argument of it will have its shine in the future usually apply to artistic work the are misunderstood and ahead of its time. This movie is not misunderstood or ahead of its time, it’s just a movie that doesnt know its own audience. It’s completely being misunderstood online, and the idea that art must cater to an audience isn’t art, it’s commercialism. I can't be free if my hands are tied... 🧟♀️👰🏻 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 59,008 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 16 minutes ago, Bonkers said: Yup, that audience score. I use RT all the time, and for years. The audience is almost always higher than the critics score. Because people usually enjoy movies. Critics score 33% (295+ verified ratings) , Audience score 31% (2500+ verified ratings) This isn't a bunch of Katy Kats coming for Lady Gaga. This is a movie that the general audiences are not enjoying. When you read the reviews, people are not blaming Gaga. If anything they say she was under utilised and too restrained. I kind of wonder what is wrong with people who get their egos tied up in charts and reviews and ratings. What I’m saying is that the hate train is wrong & one day this film will be appreciated. Hopefully sooner rather than later I can't be free if my hands are tied... 🧟♀️👰🏻 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordByron28 859 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 21 minutes ago, Bonkers said: Yup, that audience score. I use RT all the time, and for years. The audience is almost always higher than the critics score. Because people usually enjoy movies. Critics score 33% (295+ verified ratings) , Audience score 31% (2500+ verified ratings) This isn't a bunch of Katy Kats coming for Lady Gaga. This is a movie that the general audiences are not enjoying. When you read the reviews, people are not blaming Gaga. If anything they say she was under utilised and too restrained. I kind of wonder what is wrong with people who get their egos tied up in charts and reviews and ratings. Between Marvel fans that hate DC, DC comic book purists that are frustrated that it didn’t follow the Batman mythos, pop stan wars(those who hate Gaga and those who were only watching for Gaga), people who hate musicals that didn’t like the sequences, and musical fans that weren’t satisfied with enough sequences. I think there is enough cross section of rabid fans for this film to be hated on with little relation to the actual quality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shyane 1,584 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 1 hour ago, mamo said: the ARTPOP of Gaga's film career periodt. The success or failure of Joker 2 does not reflect Gaga as an actress. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fede ARTPOP 6,222 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 3 hours ago, TMM90 said: There is nothing to defend. Its just not good. now·taw·ree·uhs bee·uhng Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMM90 2,979 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 1 minute ago, fede ARTPOP said: Okay fine, we can defend the cinematography. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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