monstrosity 3,293 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Just now, Sneaky Oliver said: When she remade the Vogue rap by naming black female singers… HER MIND Yeah this part is brilliant 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Art Deco 447 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 1 hour ago, summer said: an often made critique of madonnas Vogue single era is its appropriation of authentic ballroom sonics.  beyonce using the vogue production as a sample, while pumping back in references to significant ballroom house’s, is, to me, a reclamation  I don't understand how she can "reclaim" it if she's not a member of LGBTQ+ community. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dojo 19,359 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sneaky Oliver said: When she remade the Vogue rap by naming black female singers… HER MIND  specially considering that the original song only named white artists omg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
summer 39 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Thoth said:  I don't understand how she can "reclaim" it if she's not a member of LGBTQ+ community. i suggest you research what intersectionality is 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 12,989 Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 16 hours ago, Frank Potion said: Reporting this Diamonds & Dancefloors Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Italian 531 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 17 hours ago, Meat said: So now Break my Soul has 10 versions available Single Version Instrumental Acapella Clean Album Version Explicit Album Version Terry Hunter Remix Honey Dijon Remix Nita Aviance Club Mix will.i.am Remix Madonna Remix Imagine if Madonna gets credited for the #1 What's the difference between the single and album versions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Art Deco 447 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 1 hour ago, summer said: i suggest you research what intersectionality is At the end of the day, both woman chose to make music inspired by African-American/Latino LGBTQ+ culture, which they are not necessarily part of. Madonna never claimed to originate the music and the dance itself; on the contrary she always credited them. She invited the dancers from the actual ballroom scene who introduced her to vogueing and gave them a platform to perform their art to greater masses via her music videos and tours (with the consent of the ballroom legends themselves of course). She namedropped Hollywood Golden Age stars at that time which happened to be all white without making any connotation that they are part of the ballroom culture. It's not ok to change the narrative and discredit her like that. It's great to hear Beyoncé namedropping houses but most of the women she mentioned has nothing to do with ballroom scene either and it doesn't even have to be. They are just giving list of names based on the concept of their choice. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The BPD Monster 1,716 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Ngl this version slaps but she's trying to hard and that means she's really desperate. Remember this to drag ha fans later Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The BPD Monster 1,716 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 8:01 PM, Italian said: What's the difference between the single and album versions? I think the single version might be shorter or sumn like that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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