NATAH 31,432 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Versace said: I love how everyone is suddenly pro-climate change on GGD if it means dragging Taylor. I could bet that most here barely take any environmentally friendly initiatives. Same people dragging her are probs the same people who drive or take an Uber over taking the bus/train. Letâs not. really? you'd rather defend a rich celebrity instead of criticising excessive pollution? mother, what must i do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFame Monster 8,718 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 43 minutes ago, Divine said: I get your thought, but you shouldn't justify your "environmental impact". I hope you understand that we are a part of a whole. All of us are involved on contributing to pollution. Being environmentally friendly doesnât require a huge income. It can be done in small practical ways. You may find it âsmallâ, but know that micro-efforts have huge rippling impact. So, whether you harm the environment in a small or large scale, you are still part of it. Yes, those celebrities who uses private jets may deserved to be called out, but donât feel justified just because they do more damage than you do. I never tried to justify myself based on other people doing more damage. This goes both ways. I quoted someone who is trying to say that there are people here who are no better than Ms. Swift and shouldnât be critical of her. I donât think itâs right to just say that because we all can have a negative impact on the environment that we canât be critical of others. We should absolutely call our celebrities and corporations. Also, a plastic straw =/= thousands of gallons of jet fuel no matter how you try to spin it. To act like someone using a plastic straw or cup is as guilty as someone jet setting around the globe and canât be critical of them is absurd (absurd might actually be an understatement).  For me, being environmentally friendly does require a greater income. I shop at discount grocery stores because of my income. The products sold there are all in plastic and cardboard (yes, the produce is prepackaged in plastic!!). Iâd love to be able to shop at a local farmers market or other grocery stores, but that is not affordable for me.  Iâd love to be able to take public transit, but itâs not safe or reliable. Iâm not going to allow myself to be demonized for my environmental impact when I am trying and the rich ones arenât. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFame Monster 8,718 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, NATAH said: really? you'd rather defend a rich celebrity instead of criticising excessive pollution? Also, by critiquing us of being critical, theyâre saying we should be silent and not critical which in return wouldnât allow for progress to be made by anyone and weâll all burn this planet down even faster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mocchi 2,265 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 You guys are so bitter Taylor didn't create climate change, you better redirect your anger against other targets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,410 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 hour ago, NATAH said: really? you'd rather defend a rich celebrity instead of criticising excessive pollution? I never defended But sure letâs ignore the likelihood that some of those pointing the finger at her are also part of the problem. Myself included as Iâm not afraid to admit that I can do better. Literally a thread about her album got turned into another letâs criticize her c02 emissions thread, as if we donât have enough of those already. If we really we wanna have a proactive discussion about pollution, letâs do it and start by pointing the finger at ourselves. Iâm just trying to shed light here rather than throw more criticism. It feels like people are using this as an excuse to justify their existing hate for her rather than them actually giving a flying f about the environment but thatâs just my intuition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,410 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 50 minutes ago, TheFame Monster said: I never tried to justify myself based on other people doing more damage. This goes both ways. I quoted someone who is trying to say that there are people here who are no better than Ms. Swift and shouldnât be critical of her. I donât think itâs right to just say that because we all can have a negative impact on the environment that we canât be critical of others. We should absolutely call our celebrities and corporations. Also, a plastic straw =/= thousands of gallons of jet fuel no matter how you try to spin it. To act like someone using a plastic straw or cup is as guilty as someone jet setting around the globe and canât be critical of them is absurd (absurd might actually be an understatement).  For me, being environmentally friendly does require a greater income. I shop at discount grocery stores because of my income. The products sold there are all in plastic and cardboard (yes, the produce is prepackaged in plastic!!). Iâd love to be able to shop at a local farmers market or other grocery stores, but that is not affordable for me.  Iâd love to be able to take public transit, but itâs not safe or reliable. Iâm not going to allow myself to be demonized for my environmental impact when I am trying and the rich ones arenât. Gurl this is admirable and no one is demonizing you. But criticism on GGD ainât gonna reach her or do much. The best we can do is just focus on ourselves and improve what weâre doing. I do wish that Taylor starts to consider her carbon footprint or at least address it. I think many of us and even celebs are unaware of how serious climate change is, many media outlets rather not cover the impact and there are many powerful people who want us to believe it does not exist for their own benefit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFame Monster 8,718 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Versace said: I never defended But sure letâs ignore the likelihood that some of those pointing the finger at her are also part of the problem. Myself included as Iâm not afraid to admit that I can do better. Literally a thread about her album got turned into another letâs criticize her c02 emissions thread, as if we donât have enough of those already. If we really we wanna have a proactive discussion about pollution, letâs do it and start by pointing the finger at ourselves. Iâm just trying to shed light here rather than throw more criticism. It feels like people are using this as an excuse to justify their existing hate for her rather than them actually giving a flying f about the environment but thatâs just my intuition. Iâm a big TS fan. I can still be critical of her and many of her fans are since itâs become apparent to us over time that a lot of her activism is performative. Like look at her subreddit and TikTok. Fans arenât always happy with her especially after she made Miss Americana about her finding the confidence to be more of an activist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFame Monster 8,718 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Versace said: Gurl this is admirable and no one is demonizing you. But criticism on GGD ainât gonna reach her or do much. The best we can do is just focus on ourselves and improve what weâre doing. I do wish that Taylor starts to consider her carbon footprint or at least address it. I think many of us and even celebs are unaware of how serious climate change is, many media outlets rather not cover the impact and there are many powerful people who want us to believe it does not exist for their own benefit. I mean saying that we shouldnât be critical of a celebrityâs environmental impact because we also have one is closing off a conversation that should be had and isnât welcoming. I agree that the media and powerful people donât want us to believe it exists, and thatâs why we should continue to discuss it and put pressure on those entities. Iâm afraid for future generations. Itâs important for our governments and corporations to put systems in place to offset these emissions because changing the energy sector is where we would see those most immediate impact on fighting climate change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonSwiftAnton 3,652 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Well, after putting out two albums in 2020 sheâs been really lazy with only two rereleases. She better work harder.     Said exactly noone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylucifer 4,813 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 LMAO, y'all The Sun of all publications is the one saying this, is she probably working on something? yeah, she made TWO albums over quarantine. But would they actually know? probably not The Tortured Poets Department is out NOW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardlyaSaint 727 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 13 hours ago, ARTPOPe said: Rumour has it she's gonna cover this song   13 hours ago, Ivannn said: Is She recording on her private Jet while cruising in it around the world? I hate this ****jng site Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardlyaSaint 727 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 9 hours ago, Versace said: I love how everyone is suddenly pro-climate change As??? They??? Should??? Be??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scar97 1,017 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Iâm manifesting a pop comeback album that is heavily influenced by Michelle Branchâs sound from the early 00âs. That would slam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARKDANGER 720 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Taylor be popping out albums like a Hen laying eggs on a daily basis. She is nourishing her fans.  âIâm on the edge of gloryâŠâ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTV 10,790 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 1 hour ago, BARKDANGER said: Taylor be popping out albums like a Hen laying eggs on a daily basis. She is nourishing her fans.  what in the cursed GIF was that checkout my channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5iGoXYpXnIfLHH1o7H9lxA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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