ChicaSkas 21,079 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 16 hours ago, Frank Potion said: Samples and multiple writers. Itâs not that hard but Dianeâs old ass wanted to get cute I guess. How do you get nominated 15 times for a Grammy and only win once? Letâs talk about THAT, Diane. You're feeling flamebaity today aren't you Do YOU own the 4' by 6' Perfect Illusion promo Poster? Will pay you for it. Pic: http://i.imgur.com/UWuzumk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 hour ago, LadyxGaGa said: idk billie and finneas stick to just having each other so the sampling thing doesnât make sense Thatâs because they donât sample. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLoveLamar 379 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Diane Warren tweeted, "Ok, I meant no disrespect to @Beyonce , who I've worked with and admire. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlorine Sevigny 45,529 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 hours ago, ChicaSkas said: You're feeling flamebaity today aren't you I was in a mood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 10,357 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Guillaume Hamon said: Fair point but Warren was talking about a song that has only around a third of its songwriters coming from samples on the 20+ credited. If it was mainly due to samples it would be up to that indeed but here I guess her point about the track having a lot of writers still stands. PS: I don't think it's bad to have large camps. đ Mhmm! I bring that up purely because BeyoncĂ© did more sampling than ever for Renaissance and those samples are made of samples lmao but yeah I see no issue with writing camps as, again, itâs VERY clear it is BeyoncĂ©âs vision directing this through and through and whatâs more is that thereâs really nothing wrong with collaborative music if everyone is credited (which they are); thatâs just an artistic process and it evidently works VERY well. Plus tbh with Renaissance I see it as an act of respect towards the underground music she pulls from. To not assume that âOmg I know how to write these ballroom versesâ but say lemme tap someone more from the scene or sample. Itâs respectful imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 10,357 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 12 hours ago, skedaddleBItCh said: I felt the opposite, I felt like Chromatica has the best lyrics she's ever written. Ugh I hate how Chromatica is always brought up Yeah Chromatica is a good example of why a camp is good sometimes  because I noticed the quality begin to falter at BTW lyrically. Still mostly top tier pop songwriting but you could see a few cringe flickers that tbh only grew over time without more checking. Gaga CAN write a song, but I donât see it as bad to have someone review your stuff and add ideas and/or collaborate ground up. Chromatica is not my favorite Gaga record by any means, but it does have some of her better lyricism in the last few years imo With Renaissance, idk itâs like we know BeyoncĂ© is musically gifted af. Just listen to how she forms harmonies which is her primary strength. Theyâre incredibly affective. But she knows what takes her time also and why d!ck around just for prideâs sake if you know the product will be worse? Bjork had a similar feeling after Vespertine. Virtuosic artist who could do everything herself as she basically did on that album but has herself said it takes her so long that she prefers working with others to bring it to life/enjoys collaboration. Every album since has been less from her on production and basically her directing how she wants things to sound or creating a rudimentary beat and directing from there. Peopleâs processes are different. If the sh!tâs good idc what it is lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopega 3,527 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 20 hours ago, Admin said: Looks like weâre both wrong, Rain On Me was written by 11 people, per BMI: Â still 8 if you don't count Burden Wright and Lynn as they're credited for the bassline sample Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, dopega said: still 8 if you don't count Burden Wright and Lynn as they're credited for the bassline sample Well yeah, thatâs what the thread is about. The song Diane Warren is referring to wouldnât have 24 writers either if you donât count the people credited for samples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopega 3,527 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Just now, Admin said: Well yeah, thatâs what the thread is about. The song Diane Warren is referring to wouldnât have 24 writers either if you donât count the people credited for samples. I know I was just pointing it out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 907 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Admin said: Thatâs because they donât sample. thatâs what i mean tho like itâs easy not to sample and make great music so why do others feel the need to all the time. uwu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyoha 1,412 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 She's just bitter because there are 24 writers in one of Beyoncé's songs and she wasn't asked to be the 25th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 17,522 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 So performing = dancing now? I'm not here for Gaga's performance art erasure, as LM you guys should know better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 17,522 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Admin said: It has 11. Not me looking for "Gaga Lady" when I saw "Grande Ariana"Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaga4lifer 266 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 8/1/2022 at 6:15 PM, River said: I wrote "oh baby" reminder that if bradley did that he could have an oscar today Ora et labora, Deus adest sine mora Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 5,479 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 23 hours ago, LadyxGaGa said: idk billie and finneas stick to just having each other so the sampling thing doesnât make sense Renaissance is a house album inspired by ball culture. Both are rooted in black culture. Those styles, like rap, were founded using sampling because the artists in the culture had no other choice as they couldnât secure producers or even actual record deals. So they sampled existing works to build off of. Over the decades, sampling has become synonymous with house, ball, and rap culture and this has spilled over into pop music as well. Billie and Finneas donât sample (often anyway, itâs possible they have once or twice), but almost everyone, including Gaga (dozens of times as a matter of fact), has at least once, often more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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