Papergangstuh 2,642 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Just now, AshIey said: I didn’t know ONTD (or livejournal) was still a thing. I think there’s stats that show it’s the only thing that keeps LJ alive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sir Bride said: how about we stop blaming gaga for the actions of someone else huh? We can definitely criticize the culture and environment in their workplace and it starts with her. These are her employees and none of them felt able or safe to share their issues and concerns? For so many years? Or worse, they did share and their concerns weren't addressed. She hired this man and gave him authority over other people. Unfortunately, that makes her responsible for his actions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 12,409 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Papergangstuh said: It's on ONTD now (with lots of misinformation of course) and a lot of the comments are already criticizing gaga: https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/123813339.html?noscroll&utm_medium=endless_scroll#comments ONTD in the past has gotten lots of their stories "stolen" by actual big name sites. I don't know if they are still that prevalent but yikes. They're literally all saying misinformation in the comments this is so frustrating the meow in zombieboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOT 2,989 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, CanadaGoesGaga said: We have no reason to not believe these dancers who have been part of this family just like the rest of us. It isn't just a case of believing or not believing. If your boss is giving you a hard time at work, you don't get to make the call on whether or not his behaviour is abusive (neither does he). That call gets made by his boss, or maybe by HR, or maybe it winds up in court. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aglaya 8,386 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, SpaceAce said: We can definitely criticize the culture and environment in their workplace and it starts with her. These are her employees and none of them felt able or safe to share their issues and concerns? For so many years? Or worse, they did share and their concerns weren't addressed. She hired this man and gave him authority over other people. Unfortunately, that makes her responsible for his actions. Every dancer stated that Gaga was NOT the problem, and everyone has been very clear about leaving her out of this mess. The literal victims are saying this has nothing to do with Gaga. I can’t understand why some of yall feel like your own opinion about this situation is more valid or superior to the literal victims’ opinion. could mean anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naak Le Vaar 1,222 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Suuus said: Its only been 48 hours give her some tim ee for all we know gaga is working on it as we speak Lmao this is the first time I'm not gonna give her the benefit of the doubt. Shell just say she feels for the dancers and say nothing about Richy Lmao they blocked my signature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G 10,401 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Sounds crude but everyone wanted some form of buzz around the tour and sure enough here we are. That ONTD post has a ton of inaccurate information; I recommend people report the misinformation if they can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papergangstuh 2,642 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mister G said: Sounds crude but everyone wanted some form of buzz around the tour and sure enough here we are. That ONTD post has a ton of inaccurate information; I recommend people report the misinformation if they can. I deleted my account years ago. Regretting it! But people there will only listen if a non-stan corrects them anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShayCristoforo 10,607 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Gaga is not responsible for her staff’s behavior. If this is all true, then she is only responsible for firing/rehiring. Actually no, her staffer is responsible for that. Just move on and let the free woman live. She has nothing to apologize for. Get the pinot ready, because it's turtle time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG2008 5,038 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, ShayCristoforo said: Gaga is not responsible for her staff’s behavior. If this is all true, then she is only responsible for firing/rehiring. Actually no, her staffer is responsible for that. Just move on and let the free woman live. She has nothing to apologize for. I get your point but it's her name... For the GP, they worked for Lady Gaga, they were part of the Haus of Gaga. Again, it's her name. I agree that the abuse it's not her fault but if she's the boss, it's technically her responsibility to ensure a healthy environment... Tbh, I never thought about this before as I never really had a bad experience at work but it's complicated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, SpaceAce said: Are you being purposefully blind? Of course they have nice feelings for Gaga and it's good to hear that they don't blame her. However, the plain fact that Gaga was unaware of abuse taking place over several years means that she does share blame. She knows better than anyone that there are predators in this industry who thrive in a culture of silence. So what changes has she made in her own workplace to make sure that she doesn't have any predators under her own roof? The answer seems to be: none. She directly employs Richy. She is responsible for him having contact, power and authority over the people he has abused over the years. If you think that comes with no responsibility, you're delusional. How can she make those changes if she didnt know all this **** was happing also how do you know she hasnt those changes do you work for her and do you seriously think that gaga is the only only one hiring people im pretty sure thats not the case also keeping bad out of the door is not as easy as you think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 59 minutes ago, Naak Le Vaar said: Lmao this is the first time I'm not gonna give her the benefit of the doubt. Shell just say she feels for the dancers and say nothing about Richy How about you wait with judging her until she actualy responds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGM 2,837 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 OOPS new information just came to my attention Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,079 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, GGM said: OOPS new information just came to my attention what new information, spill it sis So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suuus 5,632 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, GGM said: OOPS new information just came to my attention Can you please share it with us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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