AJRocketMan 2,684 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 14 hours ago, LaLuna said: Sis, tell me about it. It's the same thing in French, everything is gendered. And the worst part is, I'm a translator so gender neutral language is a daily struggle for me The Spanish language simply is gender-neutral. It’s not the language that’s the problem, it’s the people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidrain71 1,437 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 20 hours ago, ARTGOD said: Absolutely not lmao. Even in 2011 it wasn’t okay to call people beige, chola or orient . Why is that? I have no knowledge about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Meister 3,000 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Latinx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidsunshine 729 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 On 6/4/2021 at 10:18 AM, LittleMonster20 said: It’s getting comical now. Like actually stop. Words are just words. No one meant harm with any of these song lyrics they probably just used some of these words because they fitted better lyrically. I think this might be one of the most stupid post I’ve seen here in while and there are many garbage posts here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMonster20 9,575 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 45 minutes ago, liquidsunshine said: I think this might be one of the most stupid post I’ve seen here in while and there are many garbage posts here. … mind elaborating? Because I don’t understand what’s so stupid about my post? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenChromatix 1,610 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 are words chola or orient-made offensive for someone? QUEEN CHROMATIX 🌈 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agunimon 20,228 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, polishmonster said: are words chola or orient-made offensive for someone? some in the community. moreso liberal justice white gays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenChromatix 1,610 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Just now, Agunimon said: some in the community. moreso liberal justice white gays. i tried to understand that sentence, but i failed. QUEEN CHROMATIX 🌈 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agunimon 20,228 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 1 minute ago, polishmonster said: i tried to understand that sentence, but i failed. chola is seen as a derogatory term usually for women of mexican american, although it has deeper routes that expand beyond that. orient is a derogatory term for asians. some mexicans and asians find it offensive. but the majority of the people who find it to be offensive are liberal justice white people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Goth 1,144 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 beige, chola or orient .i always think it like owning the word itself. im asian, and those people call me oriental and its like fck u orient-made i was born this way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 96,423 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Back when the song initially released, there are a lot if criticism over this line by the racial community in question. It is tarnishing the song legacy a little bit. Most complain are because they feel like it is the outdated, crude, and lazy way to do it, she could just have said the race itself instead of Orient and Chola. In 2016, LA Times published an article about the term "oriental/orient" written by a Japanese person, https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-tsuchiyama-oriental-insult-20160601-snap-story.html So I understand why Gaga would approve this change so it would at least be more respectable. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ be delulu until it becomes trululu (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
56jae 176 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 as a half brown half asian person, there is absolutely nothing "offensive" about the original lyrics. yall wannabe activists are just trying too hard to drag her for absolutely no reason lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klonoa 2,194 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I was reading his name as Oliver this whole time lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino 5,094 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I still see the word "oriental" used quite often, so I don't understand what the fuss is about. almost never see chola though. 月にかわって、おしおきよ！🌙 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I love this song but I didn't realize until right now how insensitive that one line is. She should just fix it and move on. We know she didn't do it to hurt anyone on purpose. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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