Official Israel/Palestine Conflict Discussion Thread

[SamanthaC 88,066]

This will be the official thread for the Israel/Palestine conflict. We'd like to keep all discussion in this same thread. Please keep the discussion civil (the mods will be watching).

 

Here are some links if you'd like to educate yourself on the current events happening:

General information about the conflict:

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Israel - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

Palestine - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine

Conflict - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli–Palestinian_conflict

Israel and Palestine events of May 2021: (updated May 12, 2021)
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Israel–Palestine_crisis

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/inside-story/2021/5/11/a-third-palestinian-uprising

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-rocket-fire-israeli-air-strikes-gaza-2021-05-11/

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/right-wing-rioters-smash-windows-of-arab-owned-businesses-in-bat-yam-667993

 

[RAMROD 87,008]

Inb4 that one Israelite member is here, civil diacussion will not be one of them

[LG666 1,173]

Free Palestine. 

[Cersei Lannister 3,950]

I’m kind of confused about the whole thing tbh. There are some gheys on my Facebook posting that they support Israel and other gheys saying they support Palestine and they’re fighting over it. I have a basic concept of the what the conflict is about but why is this such a political issue can someone help me understand 

[BUtterfield 8 35,268]

https://www.instagram.com/p/COzFU2xHdzh/?igshid=kha82sogz0k2

Rihanna is already receiving backlash on the show.

Okay but what’s so bad about saying that you’re sad that people on both sides are getting killed?

I know Israel is the bad guy here but the civilians aren’t

[Rahrahbitchson 12,037]

QUEEEEEEEEEEEEN

World NEEDS to put its eyes on this situation, why do we keep acting like it isn't happening? 

[Serial Chiller 8,044]

Just now, Rahrahbitchson said:

QUEEEEEEEEEEEEN

World NEEDS to put its eyes on this situation, why do we keep acting like it isn't happening? 

Because Israel is US' lapdog and they can't say anything without exposing their hypocritical ass. 

[Zeth 904]

IMHO, this is the ideal response the world should have on this matter. Condemn the violence and support a resolution. Posting which “side” you align with on social media is just deplorable.

[dit 41,517]

Neutral tone but she doesn't need to prove her siding with Palestine. She's always been more skewed towards Palestine in this conflict (as should most ppl with morals and a consciousness). It is important to point out the suffering of Israel as well so this is good.

Plus she did include the death toll which CLEARLY shows that more Palestinians have died in this assault (as is the case all the time). 

Her even speaking about it is great. She's always been vocal about this conflict compared to other popstars who say and do nothing or keep their thoughts private which is fine I guess but just lame. 

[thatfoxyfeeling 11,352]

6 minutes ago, dit said:

Neutral tone but she doesn't need to prove her siding with Palestine. She's always been more skewed towards Palestine in this conflict (as should most ppl with morals and a consciousness). 

Plus she did include the death toll which CLEARLY shows that more Palestinians have died in this assault (as is the case all the time). 

Her even speaking about it is great. She's always been vocal about this conflict compared to other popstars who say and do nothing or keep their thoughts private which is fine I guess but just lame. 

The thing is 'popstars' who say or do something usually receive backlash one way or another, Rihanna is receiving backlash for this post even though there is nothing wrong with what she said. 

[dit 41,517]

23 minutes ago, Zeth said:

IMHO, this is the ideal response the world should have on this matter. Condemn the violence and support a resolution. Posting which “side” you align with on social media is just deplorable.

Nope. Staying neutral is complicity. You dont enact change in comfort. You need to call out the perpetrator and in this conflict it has been Israel. 

Israel has an apartheid government, Israel does not provide adequate drinking water to Palestinians (like sometimes they run water once a week for entire districts populated by Palestinians), Israel has nuclear weapons and one of the best armies....Palestine has janky makeshift rockets (horrible and wrong to have and use though), Palestinians are losing land each year & having their land illegally annexed - Israel is expanding, Palestinians are LEGALLY deemed as second class citizens due to the new citizen laws Israel enacted indicating that Israel is the homeland of the Jews and other people are essentially just there which relegated the Arabic language as a second class language despite it being spoken by like 20% of Israel's population and by millions of Palestinians in West Bank and Gaza who are directly impacted by such laws because both nations are intertwined whether they like it or not, thousands Palestinian kids are rendered handicapped by Israel's military with their arms blown off, their eyes blinded by gun bullet richochet etc.../ Israel has significantly less people dying in uprsiings and conflicts due to military supremacy (still any loss is horrible of course but puts things into perspective), Palestinians are under a blockade meaning trade is illegal with them, Israel is recognized by most of the world / Palestine is not, Palestine's borders make no sense due to illegal settlements that have rendered the West Bank into a swiss cheese territory (meaning literally every two blocks there are checkpoints and various Israeli settlements which thousands of illegal settlers) ETC ETC ETC...

I am sorry but complicity, silence or comfort is criminal and absolutely horrible. With that said, as I said in a previous post. Rihanna did the right thing here. She acknowledged the suffering of both sides but it is important that she points out the intense loss that Palestinians suffer which she has. She also understands that peace is a two way street BUT you got to get the biggest force in the game to comply a bit and to reign them in. Israel (especially under Netanyahu's administration) has been a cruel CRUEL state. A literal state that encourages ethnic cleansing. Is Palestine perfectly innocent? No way in HELL but we cannot equate the suffering of the Palestinians with the one of the Israelis. To do is simply cruel, obtuse and absolutely manipulative. Can't be neutral with that. 

[Bazaar 5,569]

As an Israeli citizen I agree, no innocent civilians should die and it doesn’t matter if they’re Israeli or Palestinians.

I really hope it will end soon.  

[dit 41,517]

3 minutes ago, thatfoxyfeeling said:

The thing is 'popstars' who say or do something usually receive backlash one way or another, Rihanna is receiving backlash for this post even though there is nothing wrong with what she said. 

morals > backlash

that said, if an artist feels like they do not know enough about the topic I rather they stay silent tbh. So in some ways I appreciate those that are silent. But when an artist or celeb has the balls to speak out it's even more beautiful. But yeah I totally get the fear involved and the silence tbh. 

[Zeth 904]

1 minute ago, dit said:

Nope. Staying neutral is complicity. You dont enact change in comfort. You need to call out the perpetrator and in this conflict it has been Israel. 

It’s not staying neutral — it’s condemning the loss of innocent life and urging world leaders to seek peaceful resolutions. 

[Melech 9,792]

She said nothing wrong. Just because she’s sorry for Israeli children doesn’t mean she’s neutral.