Official Israel/Palestine Conflict Discussion Thread

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

On 5/29/2021 at 3:57 PM, lego said:

 

 

 

 

So what you are saying is even though there was Jewish settlements in Sinai they still gave it back to Egypt for peace. 

Interesting both because Egypt lost the 1967 war and the  war started because Egypt closed off the Straights of Tiran to all Israeli vessels. 

 

What is Palestine doing for peace?

33 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

What does DNA have to do with any of what I said? Which part am I wrong about? Are you suggesting that if I take a DNA test and find out that my ancestors originated in Zimbabwe I have the right to go kick Zimbabweans out of their homes and settle there? 

No. Don't freaking back track your comments.  You completely erased in an anti-semitic comment the existence of Jewish ethnicity by saying, it's just a religion. 

Also find out where all the Jews that were bussed out of Yemen went. The fact that you guys don't understand that many of the Jews living in Israel are indigenous to the middle east and were forcefully displaced to Israel is scary. 

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3 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

So what you are saying is even though there was Jewish settlements in Sinai they still gave it back to Egypt for peace. 

Interesting both because Egypt lost the 1967 war. A war started because Egypt closed off the Straights of Tiran to all Israeli vessels. 

No. Don't freaking back track your comments.  You completely erased in an anti-semitic comment existence of Jewish ethnicity by saying it's just a religion. 

Also find out where all the Jews that were bussed out of Yemen went. The fact that you guys don't understand that many of the Jews living in Israel are indigenous to the middle east and were forcefully displaced to Israel is scary. 

Where did I backtrack miss. I said Judaism is a religion not a nation. I didn't mention ethnicity. This is hopefully the last time I see you force words into my mouth and then call me antisemitic. Do you want me to call you xenophobic because you are assuming you know more about the history of our own region than we do? No. Of course I know Jewish people originated from the middle east, I don't see why you're assuming I don't know that. The question you and every other person on your side is avoiding answering is

HOW DOES THAT EXCUSE GENOCIDE, MURDER, AND DECADES OF HORRIBLE HORRIBLE MISTREATMENT.

You can come talk about history once people stop dying. 

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3 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

Where did I backtrack miss. I said Judaism is a religion not a nation. I didn't mention ethnicity. This is hopefully the last time I see you force words into my mouth and then call me antisemitic. Do you want me to call you xenophobic because you are assuming you know more about the history of our own region than we do? No. Of course I know Jewish people originated from the middle east, I don't see why you're assuming I don't know that. The question you and every other person on your side is avoiding answering is

HOW DOES THAT EXCUSE GENOCIDE, MURDER, AND DECADES OF HORRIBLE HORRIBLE MISTREATMENT.

You can come talk about history once people stop dying. 

na·tion-state

noun

a sovereign state whose citizens or subjects are relatively homogeneous in factors such as language or common descent.

You are anti-semitic. 

[lego 44,165]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[littlepotter 69,681]

1 minute ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

na·tion-state

noun

a sovereign state whose citizens or subjects are relatively homogeneous in factors such as language or common descent.

You are anti-semitic. 

Thank you for demonstrating that you don't know what either "sovereign state" or "anti-semitic" means.

The nerve of you coming in here to debate semantics while, I repeat, PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY DYING just illustrates so perfectly the western neoliberal today. Keep ignoring 

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18 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

na·tion-state

noun

a sovereign state whose citizens or subjects are relatively homogeneous in factors such as language or common descent.

You are anti-semitic. 

You know why Israel's "citizens" are relatively homogeneous? Because they ethnically cleansed most Palestinians who don't fit their "homogeneous" identity. Literally nothing screams "common descent" like coming from 500 countries and claiming you're  "Israeli" when you and your grandparents were born and raised in Europe until you decided you're actually native to "Israel" and moved there right? And spare me your "there aee indigenous Jews" it's literally a non-argument when settlers came from other countries on purpose to colonize the land.

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1 hour ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

Thats not true. I actually thought this a few years back about Jewish people, but Jewish DNA can be traced in a DNA test. So you are completely and entirely wrong. 

Not you using DNA test to justify colonialism now  My DNA test probably shows some European ancestry I guess, lemme go colonize a couple European countries then 

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13 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

Not you using DNA test to justify colonialism now  My DNA test probably shows some European ancestry I guess, lemme go colonize a couple European countries then 

What are you talking about? Don't be so hateful that you completely gloss over the fact the he completely erased an entire ethnicity with his comment. 

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42 minutes ago, littlepotter said:

Thank you for demonstrating that you don't know what either "sovereign state" or "anti-semitic" means.

The nerve of you coming in here to debate semantics while, I repeat, PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY DYING just illustrates so perfectly the western neoliberal today. Keep ignoring 

You arguments keep getting weaker and weaker when presented with facts. 

But go ahead tell me the definition of sovereign state and why it applies to your anti-semitic argument. 

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[alsemanche 72,548]

13 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

What are you talking about? Don't be so hateful that you completely gloss over the fact the he completely erased an entire ethnicity with his comment. 

Sweetie you're not making no sense AND you're putting words in his mouth, the exact same thing you've been doing to everyone who isn't pro-Israel on this and other threads. All you know to say is "you're hateful" and "you're antisemitic" and ignore anyone who presents you with actual counterarguments. It stopped being cute since the first reply.

And what I'm talking about is the fact that you're using DNA tests to justify settler colonialism. 

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14 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

Sweetie you're not making no sense AND you're putting words in his mouth, the exact same thing you've been doing to everyone who isn't pro-Israel on this and other threads. All you know to say is "you're hateful" and "you're antisemitic" and ignore anyone who presents you with actual counterarguments. It stopped being cute since the first reply.

No sweetie. Anti-semitic comments need to be called out as what they are. Point period. And you have already addressed you hate many times. 

You are absolutely and entirely against a two state system. You are only for a system that removes Israel and Jews from the middle east. Including the close a million Jews that were forced to relocated from countries in the Middle East to Israel in a Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries. That are now maybe half of the population of Israel.

Notice how you never mention them. 

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27 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

You arguments keep getting weaker and weaker when presented with facts. 

Ma'am you presented me with a dictionary definition of the word nation which itself contradicted what you had to say. 

28 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

But go ahead tell me the definition of sovereign state 

sovereign state

noun

a state with a defined territory that administers its own government and is not subject to or dependent on another power.

A religion is not a sovereign state and therefore not a nation. I can't believe I'm having to explain that a religion is not a nation and then being called antisemitic due to your own weak command of the English language. And just in case it's still not perfectly clear to you: the word nation does not mean ethnicity.

30 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

and why it applies to your anti-semitic argument. 

Have a good day

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4 hours ago, littlepotter said:

Ma'am you presented me with a dictionary definition of the word nation which itself contradicted what you had to say. 

sovereign state

noun

a state with a defined territory that administers its own government and is not subject to or dependent on another power.

A religion is not a sovereign state and therefore not a nation. I can't believe I'm having to explain that a religion is not a nation and then being called antisemitic due to your own weak command of the English language. And just in case it's still not perfectly clear to you: the word nation does not mean ethnicity.

Have a good day

Israel is a Jewish state hun. Their religion and ethnicity go hand in hand. It's defined in their declaration of independence as a Jewish state. 

They defended their sovereignty from Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq the day after they declared their independence and won. 

 

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