Official Israel/Palestine Conflict Discussion Thread

[Baby 271]

Well I tried to help as a Leftist Israeli, but all I get here is hate and Antisemitism. this is useless I am out. good luck guys. 

[alsemanche 72,533]

3 minutes ago, Baby said:

Well I tried to help as a Leftist Israeli, but all I get here is hate and Antisemitism. this is useless I am out. good luck guys. 

Leftism truly has no meaning for y'all anymore huh  "As a leftist Israeli, I spread colonial propaganda and blatant lies that oversimplify genocide and make excuses for it while simultaneously supporting the very government that is perpetuating this genocide." How very leftist of you tbh. And for the 500th time, anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism, and as an alleged leftist you should know that. 

[alsemanche 72,533]

From al-Lydd: settlers destroy the graves of Muslims 

 

[ARTPOP 2,881]

8 minutes ago, Baby said:

Well I tried to help as a Leftist Israeli, but all I get here is hate and Antisemitism. this is useless I am out. good luck guys. 

I was waiting for you to say that. you are not leftist in anyway. 

Other Israelis here who are actually left, not trolls like you, have criticized the government without spewing unnecessary propaganda. 
 

If you are leftists as you claim to be, look outside your bubble and what your government is telling  u 

[Magic Mike 1,998]

@alsemanche could u please tell me how do you envision a solution for both parties? I’m having trouble understanding if you defend that Israel should be extinguished (and so there is anti Zionism) or if you believe both countries could exist, but giving Palestine the land that is being stolen. No hate to me pls 

[Bambino 22,620]

6 minutes ago, Baby said:

Well I tried to help as a Leftist Israeli, but all I get here is hate and Antisemitism. this is useless I am out. good luck guys. 

Help with what exactly? Spreading false information not knowing people here will be coming actually valid and logic points? Save it. You're not a leftist in anyway.

[Bambino 22,620]

6 minutes ago, Magic Mike said:

@alsemanche could u please tell me how do you envision a solution for both parties? I’m having trouble understanding if you defend that Israel should be extinguished (and so there is anti Zionism) or if you believe both countries could exist, but giving Palestine the land that is being stolen. No hate to me pls 

Simple; look up Israel's crimes and atrocities; undo them. There ya go.

[Magic Mike 1,998]

1 minute ago, Bambino said:

undo them

that seems a rather magical solution 

[Magic Mike 1,998]

My country is discussing on friday to ban any commercial relationship with israeli illegal colonies . Since we have left wing in majority I think it’ll go forward …

[Bambino 22,620]

2 minutes ago, Magic Mike said:

that seems a rather magical solution 

So now you know who's the problem.

[ARTPOP 2,881]

18 minutes ago, Magic Mike said:

@alsemanche could u please tell me how do you envision a solution for both parties? I’m having trouble understanding if you defend that Israel should be extinguished (and so there is anti Zionism) or if you believe both countries could exist, but giving Palestine the land that is being stolen. No hate to me pls 

Any solutions about the land NOW and border is utter BS since with the ongoing genocide that is not realistic.

First, Israeli government should be held accountable for the ongoing genocide and somehow other majors powers should impose sanctions (the same way they do to Iran and other countries) until they see a change. 

This will never happen because the economies of the rich rely on Israel, ofc for leaders money is more important than human rights. As I said above if Israel really wants to get rid of Hamas they could have done that ages ago. An international solution to that would work better. 

If anyone gives a ****, even slightly, they can start with BDS, boycotting Israeli products specifically the ones coming from west bank territories. This worked to some degree in the past. Before you jump on me with Anti-semitism, this has nothing to do with jews and more of a message to the leaders that only care about their power 
 

[SchwineLove 1,360]

17 minutes ago, Magic Mike said:

@alsemanche could u please tell me how do you envision a solution for both parties? I’m having trouble understanding if you defend that Israel should be extinguished (and so there is anti Zionism) or if you believe both countries could exist, but giving Palestine the land that is being stolen. No hate to me pls 

50:50 land division between Israel - Palestine-state-to-be with clear land boundaries setting, not vague and abstract shapes. Jerusalem under special administration by international religion boards for example Vatican, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, Palestine themselves.

[Magic Mike 1,998]

1 minute ago, SchwineLove said:

Jerusalem under special administration by international religion boards for example Vatican, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, Palestine themselves

this! On point

[ARTPOP 2,881]

4 minutes ago, SchwineLove said:

Jerusalem under special administration by international religion boards for example Vatican, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, Palestine themselves.

Jordan has the custodianship over Islamic and Christian Holy sites in Jerusalem
But guess who is not respecting that? 

[SchwineLove 1,360]

1 minute ago, Aphroditus said:

Jordan has the custodianship over Islamic and Christian Holy sites in Jerusalem
But guess who is not respecting that? 

It's still different with a whole city with special administration under international board I hope. I don't know if that can happen without Israel being oppresive and Palestine being defensive, but I think that's a pragmatic idea that I can come up with.