Delulu Rogers 6,365 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Iām confused. What drama is happening with him??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouranos 508 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, President Biden said: Good. Freaking out that Chris is religious is ridiculous. The US is based on the idea of religious freedom after all.Ā I feel like he should be able to be whatever he wants as long as heās not pushing it on othersĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality 65,739 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, OMonster said: My point is that he is being dragged by association - which is constantly legitimised by the media because it is seen as socially woke to critique western tradition.Ā The correlation to muslim faith is that mosques are notorious for 'anti-LGBT' teachings, yet muslim celebrities are never cancelled in this way.Ā There's a double standard. My overall point, to be clear, is that NO ONE should be judged for the actions of others, nor should we reduce a group of people to their worst traits.Ā It's not a double standard. Those are two different issues. You can be a religious person and not anti-LGBTQ. They're not one in the same. You're talking about two different issues: the first is people criticizing others for their faith.Ā No oneĀ should be discriminated against for their faith, whether Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, etc., etc., etc. On that same token, no one should be discriminated against if they decideĀ notĀ to practice any particular faith. The second issue is that there are people using their religious beliefs as a way to justify discrimination.Ā It's the faith vs. the person. In the Islamic faith, are there anti-LGBTQ teachings? Sure, if you look at the right passages and interpret it that way. Same could be said about most major religions; however,Ā youĀ still decide how to interpret and practice your faith.Ā I'm not necessarily saying that Chris Pratt is a homophobic and bigoted person, but itĀ isĀ problematic that he goes to an anti-LGBTQ church. That's just the fact of the matter.Ā šš¤š¹ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicemuncher 1,533 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I am honestly trying to find out what he did wrong and I canāt find it anywhere. Heās Christian and attends a church thatās anti-LGBT? Thatās it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delulu Rogers 6,365 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Okay soĀ I read the article and the conclusion seems to be that the whole thing is inconclusive??? I literally donāt understand the problem hereĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monet 468 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Well... one more to the list Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 44,040 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, OMonster said: My point is that he is being dragged by association - which is constantly legitimised by the media because it is seen as socially woke to critique western tradition.Ā The correlation to muslim faith is that mosques are notorious for 'anti-LGBT' teachings, yet muslim celebrities are never cancelled in this way.Ā There's a double standard. My overall point, to be clear, is that NO ONE should be judged for the actions of others, nor should we reduce a group of people to their worst traits.Ā I have noticed this seems to be a big thing and double standard in America Ā I see supposed progressives constantly bash Christians but if anyone said anything half as back about Muslims or Jews it would be Islamophobia or anti semitism... Ā I get that society is going all full mode trying to equalize priveledge but sometimes it seems more like they are trying to reverse it than equalize it with all the double standards that keep coming with it Ā At least that's the impression I get from the US. Here in Canada the dynamics of the group of people who tend to be conservative vs progressive is a little different. Socially speaking it appears to actually be the immigrants who are the conservatives not Canadian born and Canadian Christians have largely faded. They exist but they aren't as charged or as religious as southern US State Christians appear to be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopEmergency 2,167 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 that link in the OPĀ "i-tortured-myself-with-a-d" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 44,040 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, PopEmergency said: that link in the OPĀ "i-tortured-myself-with-a-d" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Biden 5,898 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Meruk Holland said: I don't really have much of an opinion on all this Chris Pratt drama, but this is a bad argument.Ā He is free to practice whatever religion he wants, but equally I am allowed to publicly judge his religionĀ for it's views. I am also allowed to speculate that he shares those views, and judge him for it as well.Ā Freedom of religion is not freedom from criticism. Yes but am I saying you donāt have the freedom to criticize? No. On the contrary, people are trying to literally ruin the career of a man over his personal religious views. Their once was a time in America where people couldĀ respect that others practiced different religions than them. Ā Religion is not really something we need to criticize other people about. No different than āgender identityā or race. I got drunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Biden 5,898 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, M Monstre said: It's not a double standard. Those are two different issues. You can be a religious person and not anti-LGBTQ. They're not one in the same. You're talking about two different issues: the first is people criticizing others for their faith.Ā No oneĀ should be discriminated against for their faith, whether Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, etc., etc., etc. On that same token, no one should be discriminated against if they decideĀ notĀ to practice any particular faith. The second issue is that there are people using their religious beliefs as a way to justify discrimination.Ā It's the faith vs. the person. In the Islamic faith, are there anti-LGBTQ teachings? Sure, if you look at the right passages and interpret it that way. Same could be said about most major religions; however,Ā youĀ still decide how to interpret and practice your faith.Ā I'm not necessarily saying that Chris Pratt is a homophobic and bigoted person, but itĀ isĀ problematic that he goes to an anti-LGBTQ church. That's just the fact of the matter.Ā Honey but you do realize the majority of churches use anti gay rhetoric? Just because some old priest claims that doesnāt mean Pratt believes it. I have attended a church that promote anti gay & pro life propaganda. So have my parents, grandparents, friends, etc. Thatās just a thing thatĀ can happen at a Catholic Church. Ā Do I disagree with it? Yes. 100%. Iām not particularly religious deep down so I chose to no longer attend. Ā But some people are very religious and continue to attend. That is their choice. Does that make them homophobic? No. Ā If thatāsĀ the conclusion these days, youā have to cancel literally every Catholic in America. LMAO I got drunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabbitHeart 792 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, spicemuncher said: I am honestly trying to find out what he did wrong and I canāt find it anywhere. Heās Christian and attends a church thatās anti-LGBT? Thatās it? I think people have also pointed out that he follows Ben Shapiro, Dan Crenshaw, and Turning Point USA on IG as signs that he's a republican. He didn't do anything "wrong", people are just saying they don't like him because he's probably a Trump supporter. Ā I'm pretty sure the whole thing started as a joke because people were doing "one's gotta go" withĀ Ā famous Chrises (Pine, Pratt, Evans, Hemsworth) and everyone was picking Pratt. I find it kinda funny howĀ celebrities think being "cancelled" even as a joke is like some big hate crimeĀ Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORMANDIE 1,563 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 hours ago, gumzy3000 said: Can people leave Chris Pratt alone? Even if he does vote for Trump, that doesn't automatically make him a racist or homophobe. This tribalistic mentality is causing so much hatred and it needs to go.Ā Except that if you vote for Trump you're actually supporting racism and homophobia.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie 2,798 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 4 hours ago, President Biden said: Good. Freaking out that Chris is religious is ridiculous. The US is based on the idea of religious freedom after all.Ā Exactly. He can be religious and a republican and he has a right to stick by his beliefs as long as he isnāt targeting minorities or being a bigot. Thatās why so many people end up going too far right, cause they donāt feel they are even allowed to not represent ps: while not religious myself, I was raised by my mum and my grandmother, 2 very religious yet kind and generous women. My mum is the one who said to me ānever be ashamed of who you are, love yourself and whoever you like and do not let other peopleās opinions or accusations get to you. ā. Also some of my best friends are Christians and they absolutely love the LGBTQ community, coming from mixed families themselves.Christianity at its core can be a beautiful thing. The issue is those who teach and preach wrong āfakeā ideals and opinions while presenting them as āJesusās wordsā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serial Chiller 8,044 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I mean a bunch of straight white men sticking up for each other. Eh.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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