TheJoanneJoker 3,866 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, lego said: Ā no one is asking from you, a non-muslim to be offended over this, no one. no one said that makes you islamophobic.Ā Muslims are just asking for understanding and not talking for us andĀ dictating the way we should feel or react. Not even all of us agree on everything when it comes to this topic and thatās ok.Ā Ā anyway the DJ already addressed this, I wish mods would close, itās derailed as usual and people just repeat same old.Ā I mentioned it doesn't offend me as a ((non muslim)) to imply from the start that it doesn't personally offend me, however, it might offend muslims. This was to clarify that I don't assume nor suggest that muslims are not/should not be offended by this. My comment was from a non-religious' person point of view. Therefore, I stick to my opinion that religion divides people and that's why I'm not trying to back any of them up.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRedd 3,139 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 hours ago, lego said: Ā Ā Who is yāall? Why would Muslims talk FOR Christians and get offended FOR them if/whenĀ Christianity is mocked? Isnāt this what everyone is against? In Islam itās forbidden to mock other peopleās beliefs, so mocking Christianity is never ok. But can you say opposite? Aggressive atheists and others Ā in this thread are angry and annoyed that some Muslims might take offense to this. Everyone is whining about cancel culture and snowflakes and talk FOR people affected how they should feel.Ā Nothing you said makes sense or answers anything I said. I never once said Muslims need to stick up for Christians... idk where you pulled that from. Furthermore, I simply asked why is it okay for people to mock and ridicule one religion but itās not okay to use a song with a verse in it from Islam. If one act is wrong, shouldnāt the other act be wrong? I speak for me when I say I donāt understand the outrage from the first page comments. All of the āyikesā and such. Again, people tamper and mock Christ and the religion all the time but Iāve never seen any of you, to my knowledge, condemn those acts. I also stated that everyone has a right to be upset, but calling people islamphobic, me in particular, for questioning and not understanding the outrage is a bit much.Ā Ā religion is a topic that is very controversial and it always needs open and honest discussion.Ā May I Read You? š Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma 7,182 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, Regina George said: And that sir makes you islamophobic. Literally.Ā I understand your point of view tho and I won't judge that. Canāt argue against that. I think there should be another word for it considering I simultaneously respect muslims, but it is what it is. Or maybe thereās a word for religionphobism. Cause I think itās important to note I donāt exclusively hate Islam, but all religions.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Leakmatica said: maybe if people focused on real issues and hate crimes instead of an artists using religious references in their art/performance seriously if not being offended by this (as a non-muslim) makes me islamophobic, then what's called when you enjoy christian references in other bodies of art? hypocrisy, christianophobic? I'm not even religious, I don't care and I don't hate any type of religion, I just personally dislike all of them but hating a religion means to invest energy into it, which I don't go bash and throw s... at people who attack people on the streets just because they're muslims Ā LMAO this post literally makes no sense. Hate is hate. No one is asking you to care but be respectful about it for God's sake. People in here are saying fu_k Islam and you are here claiming they are not Islamophobic? Get over yourself. Hate is hate, no matter the degree it's show in. Also who here who is offended by this is for bashing other religions? Neves saw this here. Maybe that's only you?Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 134,069 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 So this thread is almost 30 pages now...what's up? š¤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, KingRedd said: Ā I simply asked why is it okay for people to mock and ridicule one religion but itās not okay to use a song with a verse in it from Islam. And @legoĀ said that it is not okay. LMAO. The lengths y'all would go through to show that "you're right".Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, PartySick said: So this thread is almost 30 pages now...what's up? What's up is blatant hate that is allowed in this thread against muslims, people contradicting themselves just to make a point, people blatantly ignoring all serious and real explanations and pretending we didn't even say it and many other ignorant stuff.. I expect y'all to do something about it and I know you will and thank you for that!Ā Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma 7,182 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Regina George said: LMAO this post literally makes no sense. Hate is hate. No one is asking you to care but be respectful about it for God's sake. People in here are saying fu_k Islam and you are here claiming they are not Islamophobic? Get over yourself. Hate is hate, no matter the degree it's show in. Also who here who is offended by this is for bashing other religions? Neves saw this here. Maybe that's only you?Ā Sadly there arenāt two different words for hating the religion itself and itās principles VS hating the people that practice it.Ā Youāre pushing that narrative that weāre hating on MUSLIMS. We are not. Weāre hating on ISLAM. Just like you can hate the Republican Party and their ideas without hating Republicans themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, KingRedd said: Nothing you said makes sense or answers anything I said. Ā Please read it again when youāre not tired, because I think my post makes a lot of sense. š¤ FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born This Way 1,575 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, PartySick said: So this thread is almost 30 pages now...what's up? Sis close it lol. It's a mess and obviously a retread of the same old thread. No understanding will come from this.Ā Reset my mind's IP, delete what I don't need Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regina George 59,387 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Enigma said: Sadly there arenāt two different words for hating the religion itself and itās principles VS hating the people that practice it.Ā Youāre pushing that narrative that weāre hating on MUSLIMS. We are not. Weāre hating on ISLAM. Just like you can hate the Republican Party and their ideas without hating Republicans themselves. I'm not pushing any narratives tho. Hating on something is a totally different thing than openly sharing that hate on public forum. You can hate on whatever (not saying that is okay) but as long as you are respecting that particular thing it doesn't necessarily make you a hater. Saying stuff like "**** Islam" is unfortunately very Islamophobic, same goes for other religion.Ā What you said is basically something like "I don't hate gays but I hate things they do".. And if you do that publiclyĀ and if you are sharing that hate publicly then it makes you a homophobe IMO..Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 134,069 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Born This Way said: Sis close it lol. It's a mess and obviously a retread of the same old thread. No understanding will come from this.Ā Sounds like a plan š¤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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