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So is Poland unsafe for pro-LGBT pop stars now


Lighter

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12 minutes ago, Lighter said:

Of course there’s money but I’m talking about safety 

No one will do anything to her there. If everything was ok in United Arab Emirates, she will definitely be safe in Poland 

Did you think I'd show up in a limousine? No
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CakeLikeLG

The opponent of the president supported LGBT people and was attacked for it by ruling party yet he almost won the elections. It gives me hope that people are not as homophobic as PIS thinks

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4 hours ago, RAMROD said:

 

OK Polish patriot, things is much different when your government itself actually put "LGBTQ are not people" on their political campaign. That is similiar to when Adolf Hitler declared Jewish are not people. Can you see the severity here?  

The more you turn your other cheek on the current state of your country, instead of questioning and protesting it for the greater good, make believe that your country is fine, the more you will enable your government to do worse. You need to realize this before blood actually spilled. 

can we please have some more respect for the holocaust victims and survivors and not use them in order to make some lame and narrow-minded rhetorics seem more grounded? 

the Polish government is anything but a totalitarian project aimed at shoving some supremacy ideology down everyone's throat. Their president wishes to use all the advantages of the democratic electoral system, because it gives him access to power and personal wealth sources in a more effective way than any totalitarian system could, yet at the same time it allows him to remain unbound by any ideology whatsoever, so that at the next elections he could say something different to win the votes. 

The crimes against Jews under Miss Aryan Sisterhood's administration were carried out with the help of the legitimate state law-enforcement bodies and national army, as well as with the assistance from some civil forces. Should Polish government so much as breathe an intention to send LGBT people to concentration camps for slave labor and murder, the country will come under the pressure of all sorts of financial and economic sanctions that can wreck its economy so hard the President will not be able to recover.

The Polish President may be as homophobic as we judge him, but he is not arresting hundreds of thousands of Polish LGBTQ+ people and murdering them in the concentration camps, and to draw a conclusion that his election victory and his campaign slogans are similar to the beginning of Jews persecution in Nazi Germany...  :interestinga:

Nearly half of Polish GDP is exports-oriented. The country is too goddamn dependent on foreign economic relations to even risk massive sanctions.  

Finally, I would like to point out, that the totalitarian fascist states have proved to be very short-living things in terms of historic context. We are obviously shocked and appalled by the scale of their crimes, but these systems did not last very long. The sad truth about today is that most people in the world live neither in a true totalitarian regime, where all freedoms and rights are suppressed with sheer brutality of law-enforcement bodies and all those who disagree are executed, nor in a true liberal regime, where all freedoms and rights are respected and the state guards the rights of all her citizens. Most people live in something in-between. Poland is a great example. It is far more free than Russia, but far less liberal than the USA. 

 

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45 minutes ago, NightStar said:

can we please have some more respect for the holocaust victims and survivors and not use them in order to make some lame and narrow-minded rhetorics seem more grounded? 

the Polish government is anything but a totalitarian project aimed at shoving some supremacy ideology down everyone's throat. Their president wishes to use all the advantages of the democratic electoral system, because it gives him access to power and personal wealth sources in a more effective way than any totalitarian system could, yet at the same time it allows him to remain unbound by any ideology whatsoever, so that at the next elections he could say something different to win the votes. 

The crimes against Jews under Miss Aryan Sisterhood's administration were carried out with the help of the legitimate state law-enforcement bodies and national army, as well as with the assistance from some civil forces. Should Polish government so much as breathe an intention to send LGBT people to concentration camps for slave labor and murder, the country will come under the pressure of all sorts of financial and economic sanctions that can wreck its economy so hard the President will not be able to recover.

The Polish President may be as homophobic as we judge him, but he is not arresting hundreds of thousands of Polish LGBTQ+ people and murdering them in the concentration camps, and to draw a conclusion that his election victory and his campaign slogans are similar to the beginning of Jews persecution in Nazi Germany...  :interestinga:

Nearly half of Polish GDP is exports-oriented. The country is too goddamn dependent on foreign economic relations to even risk massive sanctions.  

Finally, I would like to point out, that the totalitarian fascist states have proved to be very short-living things in terms of historic context. We are obviously shocked and appalled by the scale of their crimes, but these systems did not last very long. The sad truth about today is that most people in the world live neither in a true totalitarian regime, where all freedoms and rights are suppressed with sheer brutality of law-enforcement bodies and all those who disagree are executed, nor in a true liberal regime, where all freedoms and rights are respected and the state guards the rights of all her citizens. Most people live in something in-between. Poland is a great example. It is far more free than Russia, but far less liberal than the USA. 

 

Stop describing current situation in Poland or you will be called childish by person from USA who knows better than us :ladyhaha:

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Guest Messy vers
1 hour ago, RAMROD said:

And I am glad you can excel to this childish comeback :)

 

I am so sorry. You are right. Gays in poland are stalked by Jarosław Kaczyński and going to prison for using grindr :ladyhaha: I'm pretty sure, you know the best. So sorry 

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FameMonster01

People comparing Poland to Russia , or the current situation with na*ism, no words... It's not that severe, yes it's a problem, yes a change should come. But it's not like they are killing LGBT people, the country itself is still pretty much safe for LGBT singers to perform there

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Karen Smith

Guys, you have no idea how hard is to live in Poland. So please, stop. You dont know what polish President is like, you dont know how many lgbt young people are killing themselfs. You dont know how hard is to dont Have possibility to look like you would like to look, or act like you would like to act. Polish people are mostly very conservative and they cant or they dont want understand that love can be different than just man and woman. And The fact that you are Talking about holocaust scares me cause it's the same situation like white guy says that he knows everything about rasism. 

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