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Doctor Mike's Opinion on Gaga's Stance on Medication

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WholesomeOOf

I have no idea where to post this so I just thought I'd share it here for you all to discuss. Remember guys please be civil and don't be rude :heart:

Also here is Gaga's statement with actual context and not just a single sentence incase anyone needs it,

Full talk here,

 

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TioBernie

I am part of the working class. I have dealt with mental health problems since I was a little boy. My family too. It’s gotten worse and it has destroyed my life. I have not once been treated for my trauma, social anxiety and suicidal thoughts before because I can’t afford to get good treatment. However, the only option I have now is a primary care doctor. This is why Medicare for All is important to me and Gaga doesn’t understand that many of us simply don’t have access to healthcare. I know she’s a good person and she’s trying to help. But this is my concern with most celebs when they get involve in these issues. They don’t understand that simply talking or donating to charities is not enough. There must be structural change.

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nenhures

I mean, he has a point in that regard. It's really hard to have access to a psychiatrist and most of the time primary care doctors are the closest thing people can get to treatment. I understand that there's a concern with primary care doctors giving away medication without properly evaluating or accompanying a patient (which I have experienced myself) and of course it'd be great if we could all just find a psychiatrist and call it a day but that's not the reality of the average person.

In order for that to be valid we must dismantle the system and prevent the privatization of the medical and pharmaceutical industry from getting in the way of people's well-being. She means well and in a better world that's what would happen but unfortunately there are greater issues at hand that get in the way.

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Glamourpuss
3 minutes ago, TioBernie said:

I am part of the working class. I have dealt with mental health problems since I was a little boy. It’s gotten worse and it has destroyed my life. I have not once been treated for my trauma, social anxiety and suicidal thoughts before because I can’t afford to get good treatment. However, the only option I have now is a primary care doctor. This is why Medicare for all is important to me and Gaga doesn’t understand that many of us simply don’t have access tp healthcare. I know she’s a good person and she’s trying to help. But this is my concern with most celebs when they get involve in these issues. They don’t understand that simply talking or donating to charities is not enough. There must be structural change.

I do agree with you to some extent but at least she's putting in the effort to make a change. 

There are YouTube videos that could help you manage your symptoms. Whether it's meditation to relax your mind, something to help you sleep such as a sleep hypnotism video (they work) or something for reprogramming your mind to think more positively. I went without help for a long time and relied on videos like these and they really helped me to be more normal when I was unable to see a doctor.  

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NT78

Even people with REALLY good insurance have trouble finding psychiatrists because SO many of them are private pay only and don't even take insurance. I have that issue here. It was incredibly difficult to find a psychiatrist for my teen son that was part of our insurance network. It's much easier when you are a millionaire to find quality mental health care because paying $450+ cash per visit is pocket change to you. 

 

That said, I don't think primary care doctors have any business prescribing and monitoring psychotropic drugs. That should absolutely be done by a psychiatrist, but until the insurance companies increase the payouts to these doctors, they will continue to seek private pay clients rather than taking insurance.  My son's pediatric psychiatrist just informed us that she is leaving the group and starting a private practice and will not be accepting insurance anymore. It sucks. 

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Ladey Gaygay

Gaga's advice had good intent, but it fell flat:giveup:

𝖎 𝖘𝖑𝖊𝖊𝖕 𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖍 𝖌𝖚𝖞𝖘 𝖋𝖔𝖗 𝖋𝖚𝖓 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖉𝖗𝖚𝖌𝖘
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GreenDiamond

yep she doesnt have good background of problem and its way deeper that what she thinks...

cant stop staring at his pecs tho :emma:

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xoxo Craig

Medication is there for a reason. Its not a long term solution and Gaga was certainly not saying that medication is the way forward. What Gaga was saying was that to use the medication if need be, and don't be ashamed of it, while also seeking the help of a psychiatrist and a psychologist who will be able to implement more long term measures towards a future where medication won't need to be used. 

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LGs LM

Is the struggle to find a psychiatrist just a US problem? I don't think it's that hard to find one in my country. I'm genuinely asking a question.

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ComeToJoe
2 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said:

Medication is there for a reason. Its not a long term solution and Gaga was certainly not saying that medication is the way forward. What Gaga was saying was that to use the medication if need be, and don't be ashamed of it, while also seeking the help of a psychiatrist and a psychologist who will be able to implement more long term measures towards a future where medication won't need to be used. 

Definitely, 100% Gaga came from the right point of mind. I do think what Dr.Mike is talking about is the people who should be issuing the medication, and the ease of access to resources to those for people who may not have that financial capability. 
 

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nenhures
1 minute ago, LGs LM said:

Is the struggle to find a psychiatrist just a US problem? I don't think it's that hard to find one in my country. I'm genuinely asking a question.

Speaking from experience, not at all. Especially in third world countries. I am from Brazil and even though we have free healthcare, it's severely lacking in a plethora of areas and mental health is one of the most precarious ones.

It's extremely hard to find a psychiatrist or psychologist and the wait takes ages. A lot of us rely on Universities that offer mental health treatment because finding it in the system is damn near impossible and when you're in a state of emergency you can't really submit yourself to a month or even year long wait :shrug:

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gagasicebath
4 minutes ago, nenhures said:

Speaking from experience, not at all. Especially in third world countries. I am from Brazil and even though we have free healthcare, it's severely lacking in a plethora of areas and mental health is one of the most precarious ones.

It's extremely hard to find a psychiatrist or psychologist and the wait takes ages. A lot of us rely on Universities that offer mental health treatment because finding it in the system is damn near impossible and when you're in a state of emergency you can't really submit yourself to a month or even year long wait :shrug:

Same here in the UK. I ended up having to pay for therapy because the wait was going to be around 9 months, and frankly, I’d quite probably not have made it that much longer.

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Morphine Prince

He is absolutely right. 

Gaga is a rich celebrity who hasn't had to deal with working class problems for over a decade. 

Her statements aren't malicious, but it's just NOT realistic.

PCP are there as a first step and can often help us with whatever is going on. Not everything requires a specialist. Unless you're 100% sure you need a specialist, you should visit your PCP first (who often refer you to a specialist if they deem their care isn't enough to help you). 

 

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affection

God bless America :lana: He's right though 

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LilyLark

Honestly, this sort of thing is why celebs just stop giving interviews. Everything they say is picked apart, taken out of context, twisted, or used for clickbait. And yes, this is coming from someone who has dragged Gaga for being insensitive and saying stupid sh*t in the past so I'm not just giving her a free pass on everything.

I absolutely get Dr. Mike's point and I think Gaga's wording was not the greatest, but the way he approached it is just...meh. He could have said, "sure, that's ideal, but in reality x y and z and that's why we need M4All and to pour way more money into mental health care" instead of "gaga's disappointing comments."

Could have been worse, though— a few years  ago some singer, can't even remember who, discussed how they try and avoid most drugs (even cough syrup) unless it is absolutely necessary because their addiction issues were so severe in the past. They got dragged for supposedly advocating for people to not take medication and accused of being a closet scientologist...which if you watched the interview in full was definitely not the case. I thought the same thing might happen to Gaga tbh after watching part of the Oprah thing, but I think her comments on assault became the headline.

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