Spin: "Five Reasons Why TFM Still Matters"

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inb4 Gaga forgets TFM.

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9 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said:

In your opinion, and yes I am not particularly fond of both projects HOWEVER there are gems on both projects and she could have made an EP, its still a lot of material that she has released. Imagine if Gaga put out all the material she has been working on for the past 3 years... that would be amazing 

I would want that but look at what happened to Ariana. She kept releasing music this year but most of her stuff outside Thank U, Next are, if not subpar, similar-sounding. I don't want Gaga to keep releasing songs even if they sound like rejects just 'cause.

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11 hours ago, xoxo Craig said:

Yeah but its still classed as an EP... I wish Gaga released more often than what she has done tbh

By lenght it's considered an album and Gaga considers it an album too lol

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Just now, Miracle said:

By lenght it's considered an album and Gaga considers it an album too lol

By length its considered an EP... EPs (in the US) have a maximum of 8 tracks, which The Fame Monster has

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15 minutes ago, LGs LM said:

I would want that but look at what happened to Ariana. She kept releasing music this year but most of her stuff outside Thank U, Next are, if not subpar, similar-sounding. I don't want Gaga to keep releasing songs even if they sound like rejects just 'cause.

I mean, I don't think there would be a drop in Quality from Gaga if she done that... especially with the producers she's been working with. I bet you she has enough material to release 2 full albums right now, just sitting there.

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One day, in the far and distant future, there will be a Gaga article that doesn't reference Madonna. One day...

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36 minutes ago, Miracle said:

By lenght it's considered an album and Gaga considers it an album too lol

 

34 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said:

By length its considered an EP... EPs (in the US) have a maximum of 8 tracks, which The Fame Monster has

Dont they also consider number of minutes because other albums with more tracks are shorter?

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19 minutes ago, DeanWinchester said:

 

Dont they also consider number of minutes because other albums with more tracks are shorter?

More than 25 minutes: album

Less: EP

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4 hours ago, LGs LM said:

inb4 Gaga forgets TFM.

I was waiting for her tweet about it 

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On 11/19/2019 at 2:33 AM, Brie Candy said:

Lady Gaga’s Fame Monster at 10: Five Reasons Why the Album Still Matters

Deluxe editions of successful albums with a few half-baked bonus tracks are common enough cash grabs. But most artists don’t bring 40 minutes of substantial new material, conceived and sold as a standalone project, with multiple future hits on it. Lady Gaga isn’t most artists, and The Fame Monster isn’t most albums. Instead of basking in the glow of her 2008 breakout The Fame and merely inserting bonus electronic-synth dance tracks a la “Paparazzi” and “Poker Face,” she decided to take control of her music and evolve into a fully rounded 23-year-old pop star. It took a grand total of 15 months.  

1. It Reintroduced Glam-Rock Theatrics and High-Art Presentation to the Pop Mainstream 

On The Fame Monster, Gaga solidified an arty, ambitious, theatrical approach that would influence a generation of pop stars. It’s hard to imagine some of  Nicki Minaj’s wilder visual moments without Gaga’s own glam excursions—despite Minaj’s own protestations—and Taylor Swift’s campy-but-serious turn to dark high-fashion imagery and steely sonics on Reputation were similarly Gaga-esque. In the mid-2000s, before Gaga came along, few pop musicians were presenting themselves as auteurs in control of a fully unified vision; now, stylish visual albums and collaborations with fine artists and avant-garde designers are commonplace. The glammy and artful presentation of The Fame Monster—which included two beautifully gothic Hedi Silmane-shot photos that Gaga fought against resistant Interscope execs to include as the cover art—may not be solely responsible for what came after, but it certainly helped kickstart the trend.

2. It Visualized the Sound 

It’s a testament to Gaga’s chameleonic nature that we didn’t quite have a read on her natural appearance until she took out her hair extensions and washed off all her stage makeup in A Star Is Born. That’s because the ever-self-conscious Gaga drew on evolving visual styles of presentation for her Fame Monster promo clips, the likes of which had not been seen since Madonna. A decade later, the likes of Halsey (“Without Me”) and Billie Eilish (“Bury a Friend”) have taken similar risks as they mix art and spectacle in their own cinematic videos.  

3. It Marked a Pop EP Renaissance

When The Fame Monster arrived in 2009, the streaming era was still a couple of years away from beginning in earnest. But Gaga anticipated the ways in which the internet was changing the rules for pop stars. Her decision to release The Fame Monster with eight new tracks rather than wait until she had enough material for a proper full-length anticipated our current moment, in which artists regularly release EPs and singles in response to social media’s demand for a constant stream of content. Now, a younger digital-native artist such as Lil Nas X sees no problem with officially debuting with an EP, like a slightly more formalized version of throwing a few songs up for the fans on SoundCloud. Miley Cyrus recently announced that she would deliver three individual EPs in a span of one year rather than a single album. EPs are no longer few-and-far-between releases; they’re the norm.

4. It Helped Usher in the New Wave of Stanning 

Before Beliebers, Swifties, Directioners, and the BTS Army, there were Little Monsters. Gaga used the term during her shows in the summer of 2009 because of the way they crawled, writhed, and screamed in the pits during her concerts. She coined a nickname and pioneered a movement in which overzealous fans obsess over a celebrity. (The term dates back to the haunting 2000 Eminem song “Stan.”) Suddenly, you were either a true Gaga devotee or you weren’t. This title extended far beyond lapping up concerts and making posters. The Fame Monster’s release coincided with the explosion of Twitter, meaning Monsters could create accounts and interact with a support network of like-minded people from around the world 24/7. (On the flip side, trolling anti-Gaga posters en masse was an option as well.) They could also keep up with Gaga herself; her Instagram account currently boasts 38 million followers while her Twitter has a staggering 80 million followers. And given that she’s been loyal and communicative to her fans—especially the LGBTQ crowd, for whose rights she has consistently championed—there’s a chance for a response. 

5. It Helped Her Take the Madonna Mantle

There is and will only be one Madonna. She was the one who ran so Katy, Rihanna, Britney, Christina, Pink, J. Lo and more could strut. And, bless her 61-year-old soul, the Queen of Pop is not going anywhere. But with The Fame Monster, Gaga officially established herself as the heir apparent. No, not necessarily in her musical sound. (As noted above, she’s a glam rocker at heart.) And in the Provocative Playbook, Spears was sashaying around the MTV Video Music Awards stage with a python draped around her shoulders while Gaga was still doing homework in Manhattan. But The Fame Monster proved that only Gaga could bring the whole fearless Madge package of challenging societal norms, breaking style barriers, and exploring sexuality through the lens of celebrity. In her subsequent releases, Gaga has illustrated the more vulnerable aspects of her persona, but like Madonna, she has never backed down from courting fame and making her own existence as a pop star into a meta-commentary on stardom itself.

SOURCE: https://www.spin.com/2019/11/lady-gaga-fame-monster-10th-anniversary-five-reasons-why-album-still-matters/

 

 

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On 11/19/2019 at 6:08 AM, xoxo Craig said:

By length its considered an EP... EPs (in the US) have a maximum of 8 tracks, which The Fame Monster has

EPs are determined by track length, not by number of songs. There's a reason why the Grammy's nominated The Fame and  The Fame Monster for album of the year for two separate years. 

People only consider it an EP because it was attached to The Fame to increase sales. But in its own right, and by admission of most music critics, it's a full-length LP album. 

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1 hour ago, loveyougaga said:

I wanted to post it but didn't know how to create a topic

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6 minutes ago, Brie Candy said:

I think you need to receive some reactions to unlock that

Oh ok, thanks

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On 11/19/2019 at 1:33 AM, Brie Candy said:

She coined a nickname

the way they snubbed lambily