FentyGa 14,340 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 so i was recently watching a “forgotten ariana grande songs” video, and a song came on that reminded me of something. immediately. and then i realised. the ari song’s called too close so i googled it to see the credits. the writers are: Harmony Samuels, H. "Carmen Reece" Culver, Al Sherrod Lambert, Maurice David Wade, Ariana Grande peculiar, considering the fact that the chorus and even elements of he production blatantly sample, or rather rip-off, mariah’s ‘93 song “I’ve Been Thinking About You” now, i’m a huge ari fan. she was my first arena concert, she’s hella talented, rly funny, and i’m sure this isn’t her doing. but listen for yourselves. it baffles me, how she didn’t get any backlash. thoughts, GGD? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Because Ariana Grandola IS the music industry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei 59,929 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 It sounds very similar but as i have learned with the whole katy perry dark horse case it needs a lot more than just a blaring similarity for something to be considered plagiarism (i dont know the technicalities nor do i have much technical music knowledge just an observation from watching videos about the case) and there are of course artists who go the extra mile to not get sued for anything similar sounding like Taylor Swift with LWYMMD but I don‘t think everyone needs to get a #XXXisoverparty for everything... Rather than just getting backlash it would be interesting to hear from the producers or from Mariah cause really nothing else matters but the parties involved in making the songs cause it‘s these people whom this concerns. Just my opinion tho. Musery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Campana 15,284 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I mean it may not result in a copyright infringement case but I think it’s pretty clear she was modeled to be ‘the next Mariah Carey’ early on in her career. Does it matter? Damage is done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaublue 3,865 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 57 minutes ago, Ryusei said: It sounds very similar but as i have learned with the whole katy perry dark horse case it needs a lot more than just a blaring similarity for something to be considered plagiarism (i dont know the technicalities nor do i have much technical music knowledge just an observation from watching videos about the case) and there are of course artists who go the extra mile to not get sued for anything similar sounding like Taylor Swift with LWYMMD but I don‘t think everyone needs to get a #XXXisoverparty for everything... Rather than just getting backlash it would be interesting to hear from the producers or from Mariah cause really nothing else matters but the parties involved in making the songs cause it‘s these people whom this concerns. Just my opinion tho. It sounds more similar than Dark Horse did to that Christian rap song... the whole issue with the Dark Horse case is that the guy sued Katy for using a descending phrase in the minor scale which he did in his song. The issue with this is that no one can copyright the minor scale. This exact phrase has been used by Bach in his violin sonata, it’s in the Christmas song Jolly Old St Nick, it’s in the religious song Go Down Moses, AND it’s the theme to 1954’s Godzilla. The fact that the dude won the case against Katy is extremely dangerous because it implies that people can copyright scales, sounds, phrases, or even the G note. Scary times we live in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
migamiga 12,067 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 They’re probably not aware of it. And even if Mariah knew i doubt she wouldn’t even wanna bother with a lawsuit over an album track. She makes enough money from her royalties and this would do nothing for her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 96,167 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Maybe she is not big enough for people to care enough or feel offended enough that they wanna part of her royalty bill? (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ be delulu until it becomes trululu (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylucifer 4,793 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Because she gets away with everything, aren't we tired 1989 (TV) is out NOW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 40,887 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/21/2019 at 9:29 AM, Ally Campana said: I mean it may not result in a copyright infringement case but I think it’s pretty clear she was modeled to be ‘the next Mariah Carey’ early on in her career. I don’t think it has stopped to be honest. Thank U Next sounds exactly as something Mariah could’ve put out, given a lot of Emancipation and E=MC2 teas. And also, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentyGa 14,340 Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, KinneyUnderYou said: @FentyGa Taylor credited the songwriters and they agreed to the sample. I am curious to know why you consider the song as plagiarism. Never mind if you did not know. oh i don’t consider LWYMMD to be plagiarism if that’s what you mean lol bc it’s not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieJudasGaga4 67,907 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I ADORE THIS MARIAH SONG, UGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewels n Drugs 4,628 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 35 minutes ago, KatieJudasGaga4 said: I ADORE THIS MARIAH SONG, UGH the taste oh look when you werent looking my motorcycle turned into a piano Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieJudasGaga4 67,907 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jewels n Drugs said: the taste She really needs to sing this song. She basically paid Music Box to dust besides the singles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Campana 15,284 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Diente said: I don’t find it similar tbh. Does it matter? Damage is done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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