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Gov Hooka
2 minutes ago, MelbHawker said:

That's fantastic news. There's so many reports going around that contradict one another; I don't know what to believe. 

Sameee I was so annoyed as this was all unfolding about the different states of the containment of the fire. It’s really frustrating... I hope all the sacred stuff and artwork was rescued too. For the most part the damage was nowhere near as bad as many of us thought which is great. Still, the loss of the wooden roof is really sad since it was the oldest part of the cathedral and required so much medieval craftsmanship to put together  

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Glamourpuss

This Daily Mail article contains alot of up to date information  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6926807/Devastating-aftermath-Notre-Dame-inferno-leaves-world-mourning.html

The valuable items...

The golden crucifix and altar were preserved amongst the smouldering rubble after the roof was destroyed by Monday night's fire.

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Three 'irreplaceable' Rose Windows, which date to the 13th century and were last night feared to have melted or exploded, were intact.

The cause of the fire...

Attention has now turned to what may have caused Notre Dame, part of which was being restored in a €150million refurbishment, to fall victim to such a disaster.

The focus of prosecutors is currently on contractors Le Bras Freres, whose owner Julien Le Bras last year boasted his firm's goal was 'to keep as many old items as possible and not to put the building at risk' after they were awarded a €5.7m (£5m, $6.5m) contract as part of the cathedral's restoration project. 

Detectives investigating the catastrophic blaze are today interviewing specialist restorers who were carrying out works on the cathedral spire when the inferno broke out.

French police are understood to have launched a criminal inquiry after a 'stray flame' caused fire to engulf the landmark last night, with heroic firefighters battling for eight hours to bring the blaze under control.

The Paris prosecutor's office is probing 'involuntary destruction caused by fire', indicating authorities are treating the blaze as a tragic accident and not arson or terrorism.

'Nothing suggests that it was a voluntary act,' Remy Heitz told reporters outside the Gothic cathedral, adding that the workers employed at the site were being questioned over Monday's blaze.  

Some of its 200 specialist employees were working at the site where the fire is thought to have originated, the cathedral's 300ft-tall wooden and lead spire, which collapsed in front of crowds of horrified Parisians at 8pm. 

A source close to the inquiry said that many of the restorers had been interviewed overnight, with prosecutors focusing on the equipment used at the 850-year-old cathedral, where light and power sources were limited.

In such circumstances, hordes of cables and wires would have to be attached to dozens of generators, which would then be hoisted high up on to medieval building. 

'The fear is that a small fire began in the rood where they were working,' the source added. 

'The irony is that the restorers had just begun working on the spire which collapsed along with much of the roof.'

The artwork and treasures...

The fate of many of the Notre Dame's treasures is still unknown after the huge fire which ripped through the 850-year-old cathedral on Monday.

Experts are today entering the wreckage of the Paris landmark to find which of the precious artworks and religious relics have been saved.

The mayor of Paris said that one of the most irreplaceable items - the crown of thorns reputed to have been worn by Jesus at his crucifixion - was safe last night.

But there are fears for the church's 13th-century stained glass windows and its magnificent organ, while the wooden roof and ornate spire have gone.

Safe: Crown of thorns

One of the cathedral's most precious objects, a relic purported to be the crown of thorns worn by Jesus Christ on the cross, was whisked away to a secure facility.

Reports in France stated that the chaplain of the Paris fire brigade had gone inside with the firefighters to save the crown.

Experts said the irreplaceable item had been kept in a 'very safe place'.

Records of the Crown of Thorns existence begin in the sixth century AD, when it is believed to have been kept in Jerusalem by Christians.

During the Crusades in 1238, the Latin Emperor of Constantinople gave it to King Louis IX to win his support and try and preserve his crumbling empire.

Louis IX brought the crown back to France and was later made a saint.

Although the crown itself was saved, a small fragment of the crown had been kept in the spire and is therefore believed to have burned to ashes. 

 Unknown: True Cross and Holy Nails

Another of the cathedral's relics is a purported piece of the True Cross - the very instrument on which Jesus was crucified in the first century AD.

The collection also includes a nail which is said to be from the cross.

It was unclear on Tuesday morning whether these had been saved along with the Crown of Thorns.

Safe: Tunic of St Louis

A 13th-century linen tunic which is thought to have belonged to King Louis IX - canonised as St Louis - was also made safe, the mayor of Paris said.

In his 44-year reign Louis took part in the Crusades and established early principles of justice such as the presumption of innocence.

He was proclaimed a saint in 1297 - the only French monarch to receive the honour - and was responsible for acquiring the Crown of Thorns. 

Safe: North, West and South Rose Windows

The magnificent stained-glass artworks in the cathedral date back to the 13th century. 

There were fears last night that they would melt or explode but the Archbishop of Paris told BFM-TV today that they were safe.  

A French journalist at the scene last night said the north window appeared to be safe with no sign of broken glass although firefighters remained concerned.      

Architecture professor Julio Bermudez said the stained glass windows were 'really irreplaceable'.   

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FentyGa

while it's an incredible and iconic landmark...think about how much water must've been used by firefighters. water that could've gone to people who don't have any.

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Artx
6 minutes ago, FentyGa said:

while it's an incredible and iconic landmark...think about how much water must've been used by firefighters. water that could've gone to people who don't have any.

yeah, but if they didn't put down this fire it could've easily moved to the buildings around the cathedral making a lot of people homeless. were they supposed to just let it burn?

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ezjo
19 hours ago, August3 said:

While that is not the deepest or most intelligent thought, I still believe it's in good faith and I kinda respect him for that

He always reacts like this to every issue. Maybe it's in good faith but it's so ham-handed that it gets him tons of backlash. Literally always a bull in a china shop.

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August3
1 minute ago, ezjo said:

He always reacts like this to every issue. Maybe it's in good faith but it's so ham-handed that it gets him tons of backlash. Literally always a bull in a china shop.

Well if it's in good faith and doesn't hurt anyone, I can't hate him for it. Maybe it's just not the smartest thing to tweet when he's president of the USA. 

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Varys
39 minutes ago, FentyGa said:

while it's an incredible and iconic landmark...think about how much water must've been used by firefighters. water that could've gone to people who don't have any.

I don't think they combat fire with drinkable water :laughga:

The storms come and go, the waves crash overhead, the big fish eat the little fish and I keep on paddling
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Petrichor
44 minutes ago, FentyGa said:

while it's an incredible and iconic landmark...think about how much water must've been used by firefighters. water that could've gone to people who don't have any.

This would be a valid argument if Paris had a water shortage, but it doesn't. I get the intention though. It's unfortunate to see how us humans casually waste water. But the Notre Dame is one of the most beautiful buildings in the entire world and a testament to human creativity and ingenuity, so not one drop was wasted in vain if it was used to combat the fire on the roof.

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Glamourpuss
1 hour ago, FentyGa said:

while it's an incredible and iconic landmark...think about how much water must've been used by firefighters. water that could've gone to people who don't have any.

They would have had to put it out to contain it, not just to save the building. It could spread to other buildings and grow into a huge blaze like the great fire of London. 

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1 hour ago, FentyGa said:

while it's an incredible and iconic landmark...think about how much water must've been used by firefighters. water that could've gone to people who don't have any.

They used water from the Seine so it's unclean water

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