'After Neverland': Oprah analyzes Jackson’s accusations

[Judaz 729]

1 minute ago, ArtyRoberto said:

He was only on painkillers and sleeping pills

I think they can effect it. I remember seeing a program about his autopsy and he had loads of different meds in his system.

[Ryusei 59,929]

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It's the kind of case where there's evidence and there's also contradictions. People will make their own opinions about it. 

[Didymus 32,743]

Here's Vanity Fair's "10 Undeniable Facts About the Michael Jackson Sexual-Abuse Allegations":

1. There is no dispute that, at age 34, Michael Jackson slept more than 30 nights in a row in the same bed with 13-year-old Jordie Chandler at the boy’s house with Chandler’s mother present. He also slept in the same bed with Jordie Chandler at Chandler’s father’s house. The parents were divorced.

2. So far, five boys Michael Jackson shared beds with have accused him of abuse: Jordie Chandler, Jason Francia, Gavin Arvizo, Wade Robson, and Jimmy Safechuck. Jackson had the same nickname for Chandler and Arvizo: “Rubba.” He called Robson “Little One” and Safechuck “Applehead.”

3. Jackson paid $25 million to settle the Chandlers’ lawsuit, with $18 million going to Jordie, $2.5 million to each of the parents, and the rest to lawyers. Jackson said he paid that sum to avoid something “long and drawn out.” Francia also received $2.4 million from Jackson.

4. Michael Jackson suffered from the skin discoloration disease vitiligo. Jordie Chandler drew a picture of the markings on the underside of Jackson’s penis. His drawings were sealed in an envelope. A few months later, investigators photographed Jackson’s genitalia. The photographs matched Chandler’s drawings.

5. The hallway leading to Jackson’s bedroom was a serious security zone covered by video and wired for sound so that the steps of anyone approaching would make ding-dong sounds.

6. Jackson had an extensive collection of adult erotic material he kept in a suitcase next to his bed, including S&M bondage photos and a study of naked boys. Forensic experts with experience in the Secret Service found the fingerprints of boys alongside Jackson’s on the same pages. Jackson also had bondage sculptures of women with ball gags in their mouths on his desk, in full view of the boys who slept there.

7. According to the Neverland staff interviewed by the Santa Barbara authorities, no one ever saw or knew of a woman spending the night with Michael Jackson, including his two spouses, Debbie Rowe or Lisa Marie Presley. Rowe, the mother of two of Jackson’s children, made it clear to the Santa Barbara authorities that she never had sex with Jackson.

8. The parents of boys Jackson shared beds with were courted assiduously and given myriad expensive gifts. Wade Robson’s mother testified in the 2005 trial that she funneled wages through Jackson’s company and was given a permanent resident visa. Jimmy Safechuck’s parents got a house. Jordie Chandler’s mother got a diamond bracelet.

9. Two of the fathers of those who have accused Jackson, Jordie Chandler and Wade Robson, committed suicide. Both were estranged from their sons at the time.

10. In a 2002 documentary, Living with Michael Jackson, Jackson told Martin Bashir there was nothing wrong with sharing his bed with boys.

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Anyone saying there's no reason to suspect any wrongdoing on his part, or that his behavior was entirely innocent and excusable (even in the absence of sexual assault) is just spectacularly deluded.

[PlanetChromatica 2,240]

10 minutes ago, Judaz said:

I think they can effect it. I remember seeing a program about his autopsy and he had loads of different meds in his system.

Yes, I saw that too, it also mentioned he was being given the drugs by his personal doctor.

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I'm gonna watch the documentary first before leaving a comment.

[Yuuri 21,636]

26 minutes ago, HeavyMetalLover said:

MJ also passed polygraph tests which those two men haven't even taken.

FYI, polygraph tests don't hold up in court.

"Nevertheless, for purposes of court procedures, absent a stipulation of the parties, the results of a lie detector test are likely never admissible."

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/is-a-polygraph-test-admissible-as-evidence-31737

[Didymus 32,743]

44 minutes ago, Ryusei said:

Any place i can watch that documentary now? Anyone got a link?

It's everywhere on torrent sites rn. Just go to your favorite torrent supplying wegpage and I'm sure it'll be there. I use RARBG, personally. That's as far as I can go without getting warned here

[Ryusei 59,929]

3 minutes ago, Didymus said:

It's everywhere on torrent sites rn. Just go to your favorite torrent supplying wegpage and I'm sure it'll be there. I use RARBG, personally. That's as far as I can go without getting warned here

just remembered that that exists. I dont have school tomorrow so i guess I know what I'll do tonight

Spoiler

Already DLed 

 

[Rio 5,088]

58 minutes ago, WohnJayne said:

I watched the doc last night and I couldn't help but wonder what exactly these two guys would gain from lying about it all now MJ is dead. The answer might be money but honestly I cant see them making big bucks off of an independent doc and a few interviews. I think its time to see the situation for what it was. 

Money honey 

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Just wow, and we all know who will LOVE this

[The Child 18,994]

Oh Michael they don’t want to let you Rest In Peace. Why would we believe Wade Robson anyways? This man loves drama, attention & money. Remember Britney cheated on JT with Wade. This man is just trouble and I don’t believe a thing he would say.

[PopThatArt 2,193]

I'm not questioning them but something about this seems strange. 

[pedrohemg 7,802]

I don't believe in those two at all. They are so fake. Michael is innocent.

[mariomania1234 11,368]

Michael's family and estate seriously need to drop a Making a Murder style rebuttal on Netflix. Include all the people who have come to his defense these past few days. They have actual facts on their side. 

I urge everyone to watch this.