SharkmanthaC 105,086 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I was searching on Snapchat the other day to see if there was an Enigma/Gaga story. (If there is I couldn't find it.) Anyway, I came across this article. I found it interesting and even learned a few things. It really explains how Gaga was feeling and her depression during the time.  The link to the article is here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/artists/lady-gagas-song-r-kelly-bad-video-even-worse/ It is also behind a registration (which you can do for free), so I will post part of it here (I took some out for copyright...just trying to follow the rules, hopefully it was enough). The . . are where I skipped some parts, I would encourage you to read the entire thing if you're interested.  Do What U Want not only collided with a Gagaâs own heartache, but with a heightened awareness of the alleged wrongdoings of both of the men who made it a sensation: Kelly and photographer Terry Richardson. It caused a skirmish at the time â arguably one big enough to considerably augment Gagaâs career â but the notion of anybody collaborating with Kelly in the current climate is unthinkable. But beneath the scandal, the headlines and the shame a woman was struggling to function. As she revealed on The Howard Stern Show in December 2014, Gaga was 19 when she was raped by a producer 20 years older than her. She has since come to own her experience, folding it into her life as a pop star survivor. . . And she was telling us before the release of Do What U Want, too. A bizarre, primal song called Swine, inspired by Gagaâs rapist, was one of the first tracks to be heard on ARTPOP; we just werenât quite prepared to listen. The single was the second to be released off ARTPOP, nicknamed âArtflopâ for its overblown concept and difficult production. But the record also came out during trying circumstances. In February 2013, Gaga cancelled tour dates after nearly breaking her hip during her Born This Way Ball Tour. She underwent surgery and a reclusive recovery. By the time she emerged, the world had moved on: the imperial throne she occupied during the heyday of her second album, Born This Way, had crumbled; she was mocked for meeting her fans in a gold wheelchair. Later that year, she would fire her manager after months of tension that had left her feeling âbetrayedâ. Amid so much chaos, itâs difficult to remember that Do What U Want was rightfully celebrated as an invigorating pop hit â or the tumble of fortunes it, and its creators, experienced. Hereâs how those bizarre months unfolded:  2011 Gaga starts writing songs during her Born This Way Ball Tour. Producer DJ White Shadow, born Paul Blair, sends her a beat that will form the backbone of Do What U Want. While on tour, Gaga encounters headlines about her weight. She later said the song was inspired by her âobsession with the way people view meâ. . . September 2013 SwineFest arrives. Gaga, wearing a glittery pig mask, introduces the song by saying: âMy heart, my skin and my *** felt like trash.â She is accompanied by dancers in porcine gas masks and boilersuits. Two days later, the Guardian runs an interview with Gaga. In it, the writer posits of the song: âIt seems to hint at domestic abuse. Does this hint at Gaga's future direction? That she's ready to come out of hiding, to reveal herself?â Gaga and Blair complete the lyrics and the recording of Do What U Want. Blair suggests a collaboration with R Kelly: âR. Kelly is one of the best writers in history,â Blair later told the Chicago Tribune. âHe is a genius. I knew that [he and Lady Gaga] would sound good together.â Gaga would later describe the collaboration as âa mutual loveâ: âI have always been an R Kelly fan and actually it is like an epic pastime in the Haus of Gaga that we just get f----- up and play R Kelly.â The pair discussed a remix of Do What U Want. Engineer Dave Russell mixed an album cut of their collaboration, rescuing it from being âa discarded track from a remix that was never going to see the light of dayâ into an album track. October 2013 . . Gaga announces a last-minute switch: Do What U Want will be ARTPOPâs second single, rather than Venus, which was voted for by the fans. Gaga will later say that the change was made âwithout explanationâ. November 2013 Terry Richardson becomes the target of an online petition: âVogue, H&M, Mango, Supreme and all other brands: Stop using Âalleged sex offender Terry Richardson as your photographer.â Meanwhile, Do What U Want goes into a full publicity campaign. Gaga gives an interview to Marina Hyde for BBC 2. Hyde wrote about the experience at the time, saying that Gaga told her she was âhaving great sexâ, although her âearlier sexual experiences âwere quite perverted and scary, terrifyingââ. As Gaga left the interview and faced the paparazzi outside, Hyde recalled, she was crying. (A description of the SNL and AMA performance.) During this month, Gaga splits from her management. . . February 5 2014  During a Q&A interview with Harperâs Bazaar ostensibly about fashion, Gaga reveals the extent of her suffering over the past few months: âI became very depressed at the end of 2013. I was exhausted fighting people off. I couldn't even feel my own heartbeat. I was angry, cynical, and had this deep sadness like an anchor dragging everywhere I go. I just didn't feel like fighting anymore. I didn't feel like standing up for myself one more timeâto one more person who lied to me. But January 1, I woke up, started crying again, and I looked in the mirror and said, "I know you don't want to fight. I know you think you can't, but you've done this before. I know it hurts, but you won't survive this depression." I really felt like I was dyingâmy light completely out. I said to myself, "Whatever is left in there, even just one light molecule, you will find it and make it multiply. You have to for you. You have to for your music. You have to for your fans and your family." Depression doesn't take away your talentsâit just makes them harder to find. But I always find it. I learned that my sadness never destroyed what was great about me. You just have to go back to that greatness, find that one little light that's left. I'm lucky I found one little glimmer stored away.â . . December 2014 Gaga speaks about Swine on The Howard Stern Show: "I wrote a song called 'Swine'; the song is about rape. The song is about demoralization. The song is about rage and fury and passion, and I had a lot of pain that I wanted to release. . . A Star is Born may have made Gaga an Oscar favourite, but while other actresses delicately navigate the annual awards campaign season, she is issuing heartfelt apologies on Twitter. Kelly, meanwhile, went clubbing in Chicago. she/her/hers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProdigyARTPOP 3,882 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Reading this makes me so grateful to the universe that she found Tony, and that she was able to move past that terrible chapter. Itâs no wonder she never looks back at the ARTPOP, itâs her most darkest era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanne Godijn 2,203 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, SamanthaC said: I was searching on Snapchat the other day to see if there was an Enigma/Gaga story. (If there is I couldn't find it.) Anyway, I came across this article. I found it interesting and even learned a few things. It really explains how Gaga was feeling and her depression during the time.  The link to the article is here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/artists/lady-gagas-song-r-kelly-bad-video-even-worse/ It is also behind a registration (which you can do for free), so I will post part of it here (I took some out for copyright...just trying to follow the rules, hopefully it was enough). The . . are where I skipped some parts, I would encourage you to read the entire thing if you're interested.  Do What U Want not only collided with a Gagaâs own heartache, but with a heightened awareness of the alleged wrongdoings of both of the men who made it a sensation: Kelly and photographer Terry Richardson. It caused a skirmish at the time â arguably one big enough to considerably augment Gagaâs career â but the notion of anybody collaborating with Kelly in the current climate is unthinkable. But beneath the scandal, the headlines and the shame a woman was struggling to function. As she revealed on The Howard Stern Show in December 2014, Gaga was 19 when she was raped by a producer 20 years older than her. She has since come to own her experience, folding it into her life as a pop star survivor. . . And she was telling us before the release of Do What U Want, too. A bizarre, primal song called Swine, inspired by Gagaâs rapist, was one of the first tracks to be heard on ARTPOP; we just werenât quite prepared to listen. The single was the second to be released off ARTPOP, nicknamed âArtflopâ for its overblown concept and difficult production. But the record also came out during trying circumstances. In February 2013, Gaga cancelled tour dates after nearly breaking her hip during her Born This Way Ball Tour. She underwent surgery and a reclusive recovery. By the time she emerged, the world had moved on: the imperial throne she occupied during the heyday of her second album, Born This Way, had crumbled; she was mocked for meeting her fans in a gold wheelchair. Later that year, she would fire her manager after months of tension that had left her feeling âbetrayedâ. Amid so much chaos, itâs difficult to remember that Do What U Want was rightfully celebrated as an invigorating pop hit â or the tumble of fortunes it, and its creators, experienced. Hereâs how those bizarre months unfolded:  2011 Gaga starts writing songs during her Born This Way Ball Tour. Producer DJ White Shadow, born Paul Blair, sends her a beat that will form the backbone of Do What U Want. While on tour, Gaga encounters headlines about her weight. She later said the song was inspired by her âobsession with the way people view meâ. . . September 2013 SwineFest arrives. Gaga, wearing a glittery pig mask, introduces the song by saying: âMy heart, my skin and my *** felt like trash.â She is accompanied by dancers in porcine gas masks and boilersuits. Two days later, the Guardian runs an interview with Gaga. In it, the writer posits of the song: âIt seems to hint at domestic abuse. Does this hint at Gaga's future direction? That she's ready to come out of hiding, to reveal herself?â Gaga and Blair complete the lyrics and the recording of Do What U Want. Blair suggests a collaboration with R Kelly: âR. Kelly is one of the best writers in history,â Blair later told the Chicago Tribune. âHe is a genius. I knew that [he and Lady Gaga] would sound good together.â Gaga would later describe the collaboration as âa mutual loveâ: âI have always been an R Kelly fan and actually it is like an epic pastime in the Haus of Gaga that we just get f----- up and play R Kelly.â The pair discussed a remix of Do What U Want. Engineer Dave Russell mixed an album cut of their collaboration, rescuing it from being âa discarded track from a remix that was never going to see the light of dayâ into an album track. October 2013 . . Gaga announces a last-minute switch: Do What U Want will be ARTPOPâs second single, rather than Venus, which was voted for by the fans. Gaga will later say that the change was made âwithout explanationâ. November 2013 Terry Richardson becomes the target of an online petition: âVogue, H&M, Mango, Supreme and all other brands: Stop using Âalleged sex offender Terry Richardson as your photographer.â Meanwhile, Do What U Want goes into a full publicity campaign. Gaga gives an interview to Marina Hyde for BBC 2. Hyde wrote about the experience at the time, saying that Gaga told her she was âhaving great sexâ, although her âearlier sexual experiences âwere quite perverted and scary, terrifyingââ. As Gaga left the interview and faced the paparazzi outside, Hyde recalled, she was crying. (A description of the SNL and AMA performance.) During this month, Gaga splits from her management. . . February 5 2014  During a Q&A interview with Harperâs Bazaar ostensibly about fashion, Gaga reveals the extent of her suffering over the past few months: âI became very depressed at the end of 2013. I was exhausted fighting people off. I couldn't even feel my own heartbeat. I was angry, cynical, and had this deep sadness like an anchor dragging everywhere I go. I just didn't feel like fighting anymore. I didn't feel like standing up for myself one more timeâto one more person who lied to me. But January 1, I woke up, started crying again, and I looked in the mirror and said, "I know you don't want to fight. I know you think you can't, but you've done this before. I know it hurts, but you won't survive this depression." I really felt like I was dyingâmy light completely out. I said to myself, "Whatever is left in there, even just one light molecule, you will find it and make it multiply. You have to for you. You have to for your music. You have to for your fans and your family." Depression doesn't take away your talentsâit just makes them harder to find. But I always find it. I learned that my sadness never destroyed what was great about me. You just have to go back to that greatness, find that one little light that's left. I'm lucky I found one little glimmer stored away.â . . December 2014 Gaga speaks about Swine on The Howard Stern Show: "I wrote a song called 'Swine'; the song is about rape. The song is about demoralization. The song is about rage and fury and passion, and I had a lot of pain that I wanted to release. . . A Star is Born may have made Gaga an Oscar favourite, but while other actresses delicately navigate the annual awards campaign season, she is issuing heartfelt apologies on Twitter. Kelly, meanwhile, went clubbing in Chicago. This so sad i am so glad gaga is happy now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartz 11,923 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 This is why she is the greatest artist in my eyes. It's her heart, her light. I came for the music, I stayed to be inspired by her dazzling heart. Inside, we are really made the same. đ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinster13 3,545 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I honestly love ARTPOPÂ with all my heart and it makes me sad that she was so depressed during that era, but Iâm glad sheâs moved past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I really disliked it when they dragged ARTPOP's sound but they did their research and talked about what Gaga went through eloquently. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanne Godijn 2,203 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, derpmonster said: I really disliked it when they dragged ARTPOP's sound but they did their research and talked about what Gaga went through eloquently. Except for the part where they gaga fired troy because we all know troy left her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy 36,682 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, ProdigyARTPOP said: Reading this makes me so grateful to the universe that she found Tony, and that she was able to move past that terrible chapter. Itâs no wonder she never looks back at the ARTPOP, itâs her most darkest era And to this day people still wish C2C didn't exist. "dont trust this crooked manipulative rat!" - @NichuuB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myluis617 5,200 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 46 minutes ago, ProdigyARTPOP said: Reading this makes me so grateful to the universe that she found Tony, and that she was able to move past that terrible chapter. Itâs no wonder she never looks back at the ARTPOP, itâs her most darkest era Her darkest era but literally the visuals were all her brightest and most colorful ones, such an irony. Its true though I sometimes miss the ARTPOP days but it was really hard dark times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Sanne Godijn said: Except for the part where they gaga fired troy because we all know troy left her Ehhh how do you know? I'm pretty sure she fired him. She's fired people before and her conflict was simply too much at that point. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCHEISSEMONTRE 2,783 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 hours ago, SamanthaC said: Blair suggests a collaboration with R Kelly So it was him.......why is she still friends with him when he literally almost ruin her career Mychal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaublue 3,865 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Iâm just glad she found her light & recovered. Iâm still trying to recover & find myself again after my battle with depression from 2014-2017. I hope I donât go through it a second time because it honestly does feel like an anchor youâre carrying around, an anchor filled with all the abuse & pain youâve been through & no one can unlock yourself from it except you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Reading this makes me feel so bad for her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, SCHEISSEMONTRE said: So it was him.......why is she still friends with him when he literally almost ruin her career Probably because he wasn't intentionally out to sabotage her career. He made a suggestion. She made the choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCHEISSEMONTRE 2,783 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, Glamourpuss said: Probably because he wasn't intentionally out to sabotage her career. He made a suggestion. She made the choice. True but if that never had happened this wouldnât be a problem but I see what youâre saying Mychal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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