Gracious Gaga 17,163 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 After watching only maybe less than half of last nights livestream...I have to say Jazz and Piano makes Enigma look cheap and tacky I LOVE Gaga’s pop songs. I would’ve probably never became a fan if she was only a jazz singer. Her pop music is was made me fall in love with her. I love the songs she sings at Enigma. HOWEVER. Jazz and Piano is by far a more clean professional and classy show and it seems like a better experience to be apart of audience-wise. This show is so much more impressive and showcases Gaga’s talent much better than anything she does in Enigma. She shows her true ability to carry a show and captivate an audience. It even seems obvious that Gaga prefers this show over Enigma. She said that she originally wanted to do a jazz show after every two pop shows but MGM told her no, thinking the Pop would outsell the Jazz. MGM was proven wrong as Jazz sold faster. I have not bought a ticket to Vegas yet, but I would definitely put my money towards Jazz and Piano rather than Enigma. So my concluding statement: I am not trying to compare the two shows, but here are two shows put on by the same artist and one show feels strong and the other feels weak. Jazz & Piano is a much stronger show. Enigma (even prior to seeing Jazz & Piano) felt very weak to me. Again, no hate here, just my opinions. I love Gaga no matter what she does. I’ve been a stan since 2008. OG here Which show do you like better? ♥ Kindness Police. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelm 8,655 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I still don't get this narrative Um yes, obviously J&P is more clean and classy, it's a jazz show Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 32,740 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Absolutely. Which begs the question: is Enigma simply not good enough as a Vegas pop spectacle or does a context of live jazz simply showcase her talents and musical passion a lot more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 32,740 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, MaryJaneHolland said: I still don't get this narrative Um yes, obviously J&P is more clean and classy, it's a jazz show I don't remember fans being that impressed with the C2C Tour though But this is a one woman show, there's a live band, fans are loving the wigs and outfits and the setlist, the vocals seem more impressive, her stage attitude is more engaging,... It goes beyond clean and classy for me. The show is better on all levels (to me). Just wanted to clear that up, I'm sure a lot of fans will agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Didymus said: I don't remember fans being that impressed with the C2C Tour though But this is a one woman show, there's a live band, fans are loving the wigs and outfits and the setlist, the vocals seem more impressive, her stage attitude is more engaging,... It goes beyond clean and classy for me. The show is better on all levels (to me). Just wanted to clear that up, I'm sure a lot of fans will agree Enigma and J&P are incomparable to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 32,740 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: Enigma and J&P are incomparable to me On a lot of levels they are. But you can compare them based on overall execution, whether or not they delivered what they promised, Gaga's stage energy, the inventiveness and quality of outfits, wigs, vocals, musical arrangements etc. It would also be difficult to compare TFM to Joanne but we can still discuss which songs are better written regardless of them being in different genres. At least that's my opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDarkGa 311 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Big fat agree. If the Enigma shows start dwindling in terms of sales by mid-next year I could honestly see some of the future shows that arent on sale yet being switched for J&P. I find the J&P a lot more exciting - whereas with Enigma the only bits that have truly snatched my wig are the interludes and visuals, Schieße on that epic robot and Dance in the Dark being revived at long last. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI WP 19,760 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Another hate thread about enigma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirages 20,259 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I so agree. I definitely fell in love with PopGa and C2C both album and tour were great, but this show just seems to be better in every single aspect than C2C tour or Enigma. The connection with audience seems so much more intimate, her presence is imminent and palpable, the show is both entertaining and chill and she's serving just the right amount of crazy that it seems like classy jazz and a little crazy fun has always gone together. And it has that old Vegas feeling to it as well. The show incompases for me a perfect Vegas night that is both modern and good ol times, classy and crazy, chill and thrilling and intimate yet formal. I'm the bitch that's fragile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUsername 10,337 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, Didymus said: Absolutely. Which begs the question: is Enigma simply not good enough as a Vegas pop spectacle or does a context of live jazz simply showcase her talents and musical passion a lot more? the first one. JWT (and previous tours as well) showcased her talents and musical passion and was well executed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varys 30,751 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ashtosh said: Another hate thread about enigma Where is the hate on Enigma I don't see it the OP is just saying that he likes Jazz and piano better Banned 04/19/2020 - 04/19/2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 25,962 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I wouldn't compare the two to be honest. If I'm in the mood to dance and jump and be crazy and free and sing the pop arrangements of some of her biggest songs, I'm going to go to Enigma. If I want to go see her perform in a more traditional setting with vocals being the highlight, then I'd go to the Jazz & piano show. And tbqh, I'm kind of tired of the same 7 members posting about their dislike for Enigma, thus ensuing a circle jerk of "critical analysis" on her career and professional decisions. Both shows are great for what they serve, and I've yet to hear any negative reactions about either show from the casual Vegas attendee, however, I've seen quite a bit from the fans Anyways, that's my little rant. Carry on lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI WP 19,760 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Varys said: Where is the hate on Enigma I don't see any the OP is just saying that he likes Jazz and piano better Even a comparison with enigma will be considered as hate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracious Gaga 17,163 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said: I still don't get this narrative Um yes, obviously J&P is more clean and classy, it's a jazz show Well JWT and TMBT even TFBT were more clean and professional even BTW and they were not jazz shows They were strong shows. Enigma feels very weak to me ♥ Kindness Police. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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