Bobbins 1,760 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Irregardless of this R Kelly mess I will still be listening to this HOLY bop! We have to learn to separate the art from the artist! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-iZUfRMM4g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 52,615 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bobbins said: We have to learn to separate the art from the artist! oh f*ck off with that. You can separate the two if it was some small misdemeanor but this man is literally out here raping black girls and women. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbins 1,760 Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Borislshere said: oh f*ck off with that. You can separate the two if it was some small misdemeanor but this man is literally out here raping black girls and women. MJ is revered for what he's done for pop music yet he's a pedophile? Mother Theresa is revered for what she's done for people but she was a vile bitch? How is this any different? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hybrid 10,959 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bobbins said: MJ is revered for what he's done for pop music yet he's a pedophile? Mother Theresa is revered for what she's done for people but she was a vile bitch? How is this any different? It’s not different, we just don’t stan any of those. Plus MJ pedo thing is 99% not true. No family’s safe when I sashay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 52,615 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bobbins said: MJ is revered for what he's done for pop music yet he's a pedophile? Mother Theresa is revered for what she's done for people but she was a vile bitch? How is this any different? I haven't told you to support either of those people? and wasn't MJ found not guilty both times? idk anything about mother Theresa. This is about R. Kelly, who only got off because the girl who was meant to testify, didn't show up and the parent's lied. not to mention the absolutely terrible jury. "separating the art from the artist" is exactly how these pedophiles, rapist and abusers get to continue abusing people. We keep putting money in their pockets and letting them wall by unscathed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumours 45,521 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, Bobbins said: We have to learn to separate the art from the artist! I don’t fully understand this way of thinking. For me, to fully understand the art that is created, an artist’s intent and character are absolutely relevant. While a flawed individual certainly has the ability to make masterpieces (definitely not implying DWUW is one, though), the person behind the work of art is a whole other layer to the piece in question. So, when R Kelly sings “Do what I want, what I want with your body”, his past actions absolutely are a factor in the song’s interpretation... hence why the song is being removed. Just my 2 cents Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody g 31,731 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Ew, delete 『𝐟𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐝』 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 26,382 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Gross tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity Wave 7,617 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I mean, people nowadays will search for anything just to "cancel" things. I do get that he's a really, really AWFUL person, but it's not like we can pretend we never liked the song or it never existed or we always hated it. Colourful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojostanforlife 94 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 37 minutes ago, Bobbins said: MJ is revered for what he's done for pop music yet he's a pedophile? Mother Theresa is revered for what she's done for people but she was a vile bitch? How is this any different? Michael is innocent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 90,952 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 It's like admiring Mein Kampf and saying "I'm separating the artist from the art" Je ne parle pas français but I can padam if you like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, River said: It's like admiring Mein Kampf and saying "I'm separating the artist from the art" Hitler did a lot of paintings and drawings and art critics say they are good, so yes that's an excellent comparision. He was a mass murder. Art and artist are never seperated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShayCristoforo 10,223 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 If you still enjoy the songs, there's nothing you can do about that. But it's in everyone's best interest to at least TRY to condemn it. R Kelly's music is not vital to your core, you can live without it. It is lack of empathy that takes lives. Get the pinot ready, because it's turtle time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 To me, DWUW has always been about taking full control of your life, no matter the abuse that so many of us have had to endure, sadly. That's why I get where you're coming from and I agree to some extent that you can still celebrate the song and what it means to you personally. HOWEVER, empathy is the key word here, just like @ShayCristoforo said. It's a great song and R. Kelly and Gaga harmonize well on it, but you cannot deny that this guy put so many people through hell and it's important to show the world that such disgusting behavior does have consequences and will not be celebrated in any kind of way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy scheisse 20,313 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 How many threads? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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