Bok 191 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Welcome to Stefani Rave. *jazz ballad instrumental begins to play* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,067 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 The Gaga persona was invented, and was actually one of many ways she helps people. She is constantly working on ways to help others, even to this day. CrazyGa explained at 2:36 into this: She also said on Oprah that the reason behind Gaga was to help fans free themselves, be proud of who they are, and be truly happy. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kattys 4,319 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 5 hours ago, Jamie said: Crying and making every speech / event about her life and her mental health seems very egocentric To me. Even the way she praises Bradley makes me unconfortable : she always makes it about her and gives the impression that she couldnt manage To be fully herself without the MAN that Bradley is. What kind of message is that ? A woman needs a man to be strong ? To be respectable ? What kind of reverse empowerment experience is that ? And what makes me sad, Weirdly, is that it looks like she is apologizing for her past career. Being the most powerfull and polarizing female popstar of the world was not acceptable and it seems like her new real, fragile, victim self is her apologie To the world, her redemption. i don't think the pity strategy is going to pay off... it is a personnal opinion, but I feel like she will never incarn a modern figure anymore, she embodies concervatives values without realising it ( at least I hope so ). This radical change of direction is what is making me slowly turn my back on her. PARDON my english im french Yes, yes, and again yes! She absolutely doesn't need to crush her previous work to validate "normal girl" image. She could say "I am proud of what I've done and I am proud of every piece of music that I made or art direction that I took" instead of being ashamed of what was in the past and trying to appeal to gp by saying this persona nowadays is better one, real one. She was real before too, but now she just matured and trying to deny some stuff to feel better about herself? It reminds me of situation when a girl sleeps with few guys and then gets into serious relationship. A boy asks "so how many partners have you got?", and she would lie or tell the truth but with a twist like "well I had 4 but obviously you are the best guy" when she perfectly remembers how 2nd or 3rd guy was so much better in bed. But too ashamed to say "I did what I did and I loved it, you have a problem with that?"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
julz 3,409 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 For me, all I know is that she knows what she's doing, and it's for her best. She's very smart, very present and mature. She is now surrounded with friends that really understands her. She's done "Gaga", then she's done "Lady". She's done "Monster"(force to be reckoned with, and full of monstrous talent)... now I think she's about to enter the phase of being a true "Mother". (Well, with Enigma still in mind of course...) Â Lady. Gaga. Mother. Monster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaye Monster 8,569 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I think everyone in this thread is making the whole âshe doesnât like being Gaga!!â thing a bit over dramatic. In less than a month weâll have Enigma and sheâll be at her Gaga-est. Sheâs not ashamed of who she has created and being Lady Gaga is who she is. I think everyone needs to calm down a bit. I'm an ARTPOP bitch, baby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 10,345 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 5 hours ago, Jamie said: Crying and making every speech / event about her life and her mental health seems very egocentric To me. Even the way she praises Bradley makes me unconfortable : she always makes it about her and gives the impression that she couldnt manage To be fully herself without the MAN that Bradley is. What kind of message is that ? A woman needs a man to be strong ? To be respectable ? What kind of reverse empowerment experience is that ? And what makes me sad, Weirdly, is that it looks like she is apologizing for her past career. Being the most powerfull and polarizing female popstar of the world was not acceptable and it seems like her new real, fragile, victim self is her apologie To the world, her redemption. i don't think the pity strategy is going to pay off... it is a personnal opinion, but I feel like she will never incarn a modern figure anymore, she embodies concervatives values without realising it ( at least I hope so ). This radical change of direction is what is making me slowly turn my back on her. PARDON my english im french Itâs very strange to me. I agree. I really donât like this very doe-eyed innocent, doll-faced, aw shucks, baby doll kind of image sheâs got for the ASIB press tour. It feels *so* fake and culturally backwards from someone who has in the past been our cultural trailblazer more than her peers and set the level that stardom needed to operate at. Now it feels like a super conservative image of a meek woman. Of course women can be that, be yourself. But itâs been pretty evident that that isnât Gaga so to put up that front and to do it so poorly and almost garishly at times is disappointing. Even in Joanne she felt real, if a little bruised and weary. I still felt her rough and tumble spirit, though. This honestly does not feel like her at.all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshIey 7,870 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, Kattys said: Yes, yes, and again yes! She absolutely doesn't need to crush her previous work to validate "normal girl" image. She could say "I am proud of what I've done and I am proud of every piece of music that I made or art direction that I took" instead of being ashamed of what was in the past and trying to appeal to gp by saying this persona nowadays is better one, real one. She was real before too, but now she just matured and trying to deny some stuff to feel better about herself? It reminds me of situation when a girl sleeps with few guys and then gets into serious relationship. A boy asks "so how many partners have you got?", and she would lie or tell the truth but with a twist like "well I had 4 but obviously you are the best guy" when she perfectly remembers how 2nd or 3rd guy was so much better in bed. But too ashamed to say "I did what I did and I loved it, you have a problem with that?"... She has never said she was ashamed of her previous work. I donât get why yâall keep repeating that. Even recently during the Joanne era she called TFM a great pop record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsy101 5,423 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 7 hours ago, Schizophonic said: i think thats just one step of her getting rid of the name lady gaga in the future. i still donât understand why she didnât do that with this movie like she originally planned, pretty sure i heard her name on the call sheet was listed as âStefani Germanotta.â whether or not this is all a way of getting rid of the Gaga mask i respect her choice. i felt for many years that Gaga was a character that was not her true persona. it doesnât make her work any less riveting or important to me. let the lady be who she wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impostor 4,114 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 That was so corny. She makes me cringe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Kattys said: She could say "I am proud of what I've done and I am proud of every piece of music that I made or art direction that I took" instead of being ashamed of what was in the past she has said that tho and she has never claimed to be ashamed of anything she's done. Â You all are trying too hard to make drama where there isn't any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Interesting how so many are happy when Gaga takes on "male" traits such as preconceived notions of "strength" and "desire" and "fortitude" and yet trash her for "female" traits such as emotion and empathy and gratefulness. hidden mysogynism maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimblue 7,334 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, giskardsb said: Interesting how so many are happy when Gaga takes on "male" traits such as preconceived notions of "strength" and "desire" and "fortitude" and yet trash her for "female" traits such as emotion and empathy and gratefulness. hidden mysogynism maybe? Iâve noticed this as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 25,931 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Mess, maybe I should've picked another day to come back Lemme delete that thread I made Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Cowboy 11,664 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 The dramatics in this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Cowboy 11,664 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 There would be no GAGA without Stefani. Theyâre one in the same, she has said this herself. Thereâs many sides to her and her career is proof of it. Point blank period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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