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ItsTommyBitch
23 minutes ago, DutchHooker said:

You make it sound like a very cool name for a super evil villain in a hero movie.. :ladyhaha:
I live for it :ohwell:

Btw, I think it's funny that 'women' is in the title of the article.. I mean... it could've just been 'democratic socialists', I wonder when in case it were men they would say 'democratic socialist men'.. I don't think so..

They don't realize that by promoting 'women', you are the one who makes women look different, it shouldn't be a point whether someone is a woman or a man, but if you just state when someone is woman.. with the intention of better equality, it will make it seem like it's a special thing that woman have a political job instead and won't help equality at all, same for skin-color racism, if you don't say it's a 'special group', people will stop thinking it is, the people who are fighting for equality have to realize that they could have if they stop putting the minorities in a box, because then you are labeling yourself.... just advice for the SJW's.. 

I can see how you might feel this way... but if you recognize that the society we live in is not equal; men and women are not treated equally, and power dynamics are skewed in many extreme ways, then you would see why including "women" is relevant. (So in this case, women are underrepresented in congress, even democrats, and of those democrats, many women are pressured into being centrist because... they are already women :emma: so a democratic socialist is also noteworthy)

Take the headline "black woman gets accepted into all of the ivy schools" - this is awesome, but I take it you would have questions about why they needed to include the fact that she is black and a woman, as getting accepted into all of the ivy league schools is already an amazing achievement.

Recognizing the person as black and a woman speaks to the centuries of racial and sexist oppression that makes it incredibly difficult for women - especially black women - to get into good, reknowned colleges, because the economic, social, and political stigma against these two groups of people makes it difficult. It's a recognition of reality. No one is being "put in a box" but even if they were, its demonstrable fact that organizing groups in tangible, categories is the best and most effective way to promote and rally for change. "Everyone is equal" did not get the LGBT community recognition, nor women the right to vote, etc.

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DutchHooker
1 minute ago, Rumours1977 said:

I’m not trying to demean you. It’s good to have other perspectives here on GGD. It can become a bit of a liberal echochamber at times. 

 


Yeah... it is an echochamber.. people here are just agreeing with each other without any resistance.. it's funny. :classy:

1 minute ago, Rumours1977 said:

I’m not trying to demean you. It’s good to have other perspectives here on GGD. It can become a bit of a liberal echochamber at times. 

Girl, this is a REALLY long run-on sentence. Are you trying to make me suffer from a grammatical aneurism? 


Sorry, I'm always using long sentences, I just hate the 'dot', because I love long structured sentences, which will add a lot more structure and meaning to your sentence instead of just using dots everywhere, which is so old-school. :lolga:

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DutchHooker
2 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

I can see how you might feel this way... but if you recognize that the society we live in is not equal; men and women are not treated equally, and power dynamics are skewed in many extreme ways, then you would see why including "women" is relevant.

Take the headline "black woman gets accepted into all of the ivy schools" - this is awesome, but I take it you would have questions about why they needed to include the fact that she is black and a woman, as getting accepted into all of the ivy league schools is already an amazing achievement.

Recognizing the person as black and a woman speaks to the centuries of racial and sexist oppression that makes it incredibly difficult for women - especially black women - to get into good, reknowned colleges, because the economic, social, and political stigma against these two groups of people makes it difficult. It's a recognition of reality. No one is being "put in a box" but even if they were, its demonstrable fact that organizing groups in tangible, categories is the best and most effective way to promote and rally for change. "Everyone is equal" did not get the LGBT community recognition, nor women the right to vote, etc.

Well.. I listened to a speaker who went to my school a couple of months ago to talk about psychology and media attention.. he also stated that the psychology of the human brain will question things when something is a hype... people are resisting (far-right) against all the left-wing propaganda, because it's so pushed. If equality wasn't pushed so hard and if you tread everyone the same in just a simple title, or don't announce their gender or race, it isn't special anymore.. people will divide on certain topics when it's a big deal.. if gender would never be a big deal, then people wouldn't think too much of it and stopped complaining about everything.. the inequality would fade away after a while, because then it wouldn't matter anymore. Now people are thinking 'O ****, she's black, should we hire her, or should we not hire the white man, because then we would look as racist..' your mind will instantly label the 'black girl'.. because of the hype around it.

I don't say it as good as he did, but I tried to..

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Rumours1977
46 minutes ago, DutchHooker said:

just using dots everywhere, which is so old-school.

Proper sentences are "old-school"? I might explode.

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LePetitMonstr
1 hour ago, Rumours1977 said:

The self-proclaimed “Republican Monster” strikes again lol

He’s a Republican?:madge:

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ItsTommyBitch
1 hour ago, DutchHooker said:

Well.. I listened to a speaker who went to my school a couple of months ago to talk about psychology and media attention.. he also stated that the psychology of the human brain will question things when something is a hype... people are resisting (far-right) against all the left-wing propaganda, because it's so pushed. If equality wasn't pushed so hard and if you tread everyone the same in just a simple title, or don't announce their gender or race, it isn't special anymore.. people will divide on certain topics when it's a big deal.. if gender would never be a big deal, then people wouldn't think too much of it and stopped complaining about everything.. the inequality would fade away after a while, because then it wouldn't matter anymore. Now people are thinking 'O ****, she's black, should we hire her, or should we not hire the white man, because then we would look as racist..' your mind will instantly label the 'black girl'.. because of the hype around it.

I don't say it as good as he did, but I tried to..

For one, no matter how pragmatic, inspirational, motivational, or accredited a guest speaker is, I don't think we should just accept what they say even if its somewhat resonating with our own pre-held beliefs. You should absolutely question, critique, etc. and come to your own conclusion through an amalgamation of sources and personal opinion. This is just to say that this 1 person's belief doesn't really make it true.

Anyway, I think that that concept is pretty... far-fetched? If we just don't talk about it, it won't be a big deal? Why shouldn't black people protest police brutality, why shouldn't women talk about the war on women, the wage gap, etc. why should the LGBT community fight for equal treatment under the law? I don't think that acting like everyone is equal is going to make those in power just decide to correct these problems... (and yes, those in power are in at least effect racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, etc.)

That's certainly not how history has ever worked. Women as a class in America did not always fervently and strongly protest for the right to vote, and sexism was rampant in those times. This did not make sexism go away, or grant women the right to vote, men did not just decide "we should let women vote it only makes sense" and not calling it by what it was (sexism) did not fix the problem, just made people blind. It was actually not until women started speaking up about this issue and letting their voices be heard that change was made. The most I can see happening if we just "stop talking about it" is that people will lose the discourse and education to understand what the actual problems are (racism, sexism, etc.) and we would enter a kind of time where people "act" like we're all equal, while blatantly perpetuating injustice and oppression - like for the vast majority of the human civilized existence, :laughga: To me, this seems logical. There is a problem, you want to fix it. In order to do so, you must address what the problem is, and find out what causes it, and go from there. This is just an instance where minorities have to convince the majority that their problems are worth listening to, because their existence is undeniable in light of facts, statistics, evidence, reality, etc.

About your example, it seems to me you have some wrong ideas about why affirmative action exists and how it actually works... But further, If youre mindset is focused on trying to "not appear racist", I think the solution is to not be effectively, or vocally racist instead of trying to not appear so :emma: For some reason, many white people behave as if being called "racist" is a more damaging, and painful experience than experiencing racism :rip: While its not generally socially acceptable (in some places in America) to be outwardly, overtly racist, on a macro, systemic level, racism is pretty much the status quo in all of America. This is why individuals do not believe themselves to be racist, and wouldn't go around calling black people N*****s, meanwhile; War on drugs still exists, Police Brutality still exists, School-Prison pipeline still exists, housing disparities still exist, blatant job discrimination still exists, etc. Do you have an alternate reason why these things exist? Those job hiring people are so focused on trying not to "appear" racist, they are forgetting to actually just not be racist. And sometimes, we think we know what it means to "be" racist, but clearly we don't and perhaps we should listen to people of color who have to deal with this every day in every situation for their entire lives :emma:

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To be clear: in this instance, I am not questioning your viewpoint because they are Conservative/Republican, I am questioning them because they do not seem very logical, fact based, or rigorously tested, and those are universal standards we can and should aspire to when it comes to holding viewpoints about life-changing topics like racism, sexism, representation, etc. etc.

 

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Matangi
1 hour ago, DutchHooker said:

Well.. I listened to a speaker who went to my school a couple of months ago to talk about psychology and media attention.. he also stated that the psychology of the human brain will question things when something is a hype... people are resisting (far-right) against all the left-wing propaganda, because it's so pushed. If equality wasn't pushed so hard and if you tread everyone the same in just a simple title, or don't announce their gender or race, it isn't special anymore.. people will divide on certain topics when it's a big deal.. if gender would never be a big deal, then people wouldn't think too much of it and stopped complaining about everything.. the inequality would fade away after a while, because then it wouldn't matter anymore. Now people are thinking 'O ****, she's black, should we hire her, or should we not hire the white man, because then we would look as racist..' your mind will instantly label the 'black girl'.. because of the hype around it.

I don't say it as good as he did, but I tried to..

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"If (insert marginalized group) didn't complain so much about their discrimination it would probably just go away. Right?" -A white male republican's brilliant take on racism and gender inequality. 

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Matangi
1 hour ago, The Master said:

Socialism :triggered:

Here comes the pointless fear of a word that Americans have been trained to think is synonymous with "Communism"

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Matangi
1 hour ago, The Master said:

Socialism :triggered:

Public Education, Medicare, The Police, Laws preventing Child Labor... These are all examples of socialism.

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The Master
5 hours ago, Matangi said:

Here comes the pointless fear of a word that Americans have been trained to think is synonymous with "Communism"

I'm not even American lmao, socialism is the track to communism. They are different, but both are pretty shitty. 

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The Master
5 hours ago, Matangi said:

Public Education, Medicare, The Police, Laws preventing Child Labor... These are all examples of socialism.

They're also highly ineffective.

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rejoice comrades!!! :ladyhaha:

 

I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it.

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19 hours ago, The Master said:

I'm not even American lmao, socialism is the track to communism. They are different, but both are pretty shitty. 

right, because putting basic laws in place that value human life and not just supporting the free market is practically the same as a totalitarian dictatorship where we all have no property. You realize that the United States (the richest nation in human history) is the only developed nation that doesn't guarantee healthcare as a human right? These are the things we are talking about. Not some Soviet-Union boogeyman.

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