JPM 781 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I don't give a **** about BB, anymore, KP had 5 consecutive number ones... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Eyes 1,882 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Gaga could take advantage of the streaming. Lyric videos and music videos should help, especially if they are really popular like Judas and not like The Edge of Glory. :flop: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Helper 0 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Gaga could take advantage of the streaming. Lyric videos and music videos should help, especially if they are really popular like Judas and not like The Edge of Glory. Why Gaga dont do lyric videos like Katy for her songs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magoo 6 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 On the formula: "points = 62% x sales/K + 80% x airplay (A.I. millions) + 5% x on demand streaming/K" That is an empirical formula with sales vs airplay vs streaming set so that the resulting points best match the actual billboard chart positions. Billboard haven't published the 'real' formula By this, if you add the points of the top 30 or so songs you get: from sales 2013 points (45%), from airplay 1848 points (41%), from streaming (14%), so sales still has slightly the highest contribution but a song with sales+airplay will have a huge charting advantage over a song with sales alone. In the old formula, before Billboard changed it, it would be 3247 points from sales (64%) and 1848 points from airplay (36%) For a debut to get #1 this week on sales alone (320 points) it would need to sell 320/62% = 520K sales - a tough ask By the old formula it would have needed to sell 360K - which is much easier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Eyes 1,882 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 On the formula: "points = 62% x sales/K + 80% x airplay (A.I. millions) + 5% x on demand streaming/K" That is an empirical formula with sales vs airplay vs streaming set so that the resulting points best match the actual billboard chart positions. Billboard haven't published the 'real' formula By this, if you add the points of the top 30 or so songs you get: from sales 2013 points (45%), from airplay 1848 points (41%), from streaming (14%), so sales still has slightly the highest contribution but a song with sales+airplay will have a huge charting advantage over a song with sales alone. In the old formula, before Billboard changed it, it would be 3247 points from sales (64%) and 1848 points from airplay (36%) For a debut to get #1 this week on sales alone (320 points) it would need to sell 320/62% = 520K sales - a tough ask By the old formula it would have needed to sell 360K - which is much easier Hm. I realize this is all an estimate, but BTW sold in the 500's in its second charting week. Considering it managed around 400 ish in three days plus the extra 500 or so the following week, there's still a good chance Gaga can debut at number one again. If radio backs her up longer (and interscrope doesn't shoot themselves in the foot), then she could stay at number one for quite a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magoo 6 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Can someone do the math for Marry The Night? I'd love to see where it'd be if the new rules were applied. I absolutely hate this streaming crap. :pukey: Figures I have for MTN Sales/K + Airplay (AI/m) = Points, #position for its 6 charting weeks (old formula) 34 + 29 = 63, #32 (Dec 9th 2011) 42 + 32 = 74, #29 35 + 35 = 70, #33 65 + 34 = 99, #39 75 + 33 = 108, #37 54 + 33 = 87, #39 It did more sales in the last three weeks (elevated by XMas gift cards), and got more points, but ended up with a lower chart position, caused by all the new year songs pushing it down. You see how radio started to abandon it after week 3 even though sales were still rising. It's more normal to see the airplay peak long after the sales peak. I guess since in weeks 2/3 the airplay was a high proportion of its points it would have charted similarly. In week three, I count 31 songs with a higher airplay (35m) than MTN and only 2 of those with poorer sales so it would still have charted around #30 that week by the new formula (assuming it had an average amount of streaming). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry 17 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 The solution is simple: everyone buys a copy of the single, uses Spotify to listen to the song instead of iTunes, and requests the song like crazy on radio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei 1 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 **** billboard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morina 0 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Didnt read this topic, but I just want to say **** Billboard anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavymlover 340 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Ugh, I hate this new rule. Same 5 songs on the radio, literally. Just no... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I can't at people being rude. If you have nothing to contribute to this thread then kindly leave. This is important to Gaga's success and you wouldn't be so happy if Gaga was flopping, huh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,365 Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 On the formula: "points = 62% x sales/K + 80% x airplay (A.I. millions) + 5% x on demand streaming/K" That is an empirical formula with sales vs airplay vs streaming set so that the resulting points best match the actual billboard chart positions. Billboard haven't published the 'real' formula By this, if you add the points of the top 30 or so songs you get: from sales 2013 points (45%), from airplay 1848 points (41%), from streaming (14%), so sales still has slightly the highest contribution but a song with sales+airplay will have a huge charting advantage over a song with sales alone. In the old formula, before Billboard changed it, it would be 3247 points from sales (64%) and 1848 points from airplay (36%) For a debut to get #1 this week on sales alone (320 points) it would need to sell 320/62% = 520K sales - a tough ask By the old formula it would have needed to sell 360K - which is much easier Thank you so much Magoo! I couldn't have attempted to explain this without you :) And thank you for clarifying the points/percentages I can't at people being rude. If you have nothing to contribute to this thread then kindly leave. This is important to Gaga's success and you wouldn't be so happy if Gaga was flopping, huh? It's ok. Just don't expect any complaining from them in the future if Gaga's songs ever flop :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FameWhore 1 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I'm scared that Gaga won't debut at #1... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar 0 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Gaga has never had any particularly massive radio hits tbh :ohno: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,365 Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 I'm scared that Gaga won't debut at #1... I believe she will as long as her first single is good and racks up 550K+ sales in its first week :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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