Whispering 18,865 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 she wouldnt have sold much less with spotify, she just has her head up her own ass You don't know that. Other artists, such as Coldplay, Beyoncé, Sam Smith and Adele have done the same...at least initially. Yeah...they are all hurting for sales. Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Rogoe 23 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 But maybe Netflix is a good model. You go first to the cinema and after a while it will come on ÂNetflix. Maybe that’s the way to go with streaming. It’s first physical and then maybe you can stream it later. Oh MY God Problem = solved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 13,284 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 She makes great points but ultimately, I just can't agree with these actions of late. I wish they'd stop trying to claim it's nothing to do with money because it obviously plays a role in some capacity. I can see the point of major sellers not complying because they could really lose out on sales which is precious to them but someone like Bjork, who's of indie level these days, barely sell anything to begin with, Spotify or not, so what's the harm in using it to get your music out there? And Vulnicura was leaked and shortly thereafter put up for digital sale since January, so I'm sure all the fans have bought it now anyway. Spotify is an amazing way to get your music heard in an extremely difficult sales market and in a world where so many albums are released that no one can buy them all. And remember that touring makes up for a lot of lost sales. Bon Jovi's last album sold peanuts and they can't get hit singles anymore but their tour pulled in $247 million worldwide with just 102 dates. Beyonce just did a greatest hits compilation with her latest tour and had no new work to support it and yet it pulled in $230 million and became her most successful tour ever. Kate Bush did a bunch of sold out shows in London of all her old material and sales of her past work skyrocketed afterwards. Point is, you can't just release an album, sit back and expect it to sell like the old days. You have to work your ass off in this current climate. But put in the effort and you will be rewarded with sales, even if your work is being streamed for free. All the biggest albums of the year are all over YouTube, as they have been long before Spotify was invented, so you can't say that having your songs freely available online is the sole reason why you can't sell. Certain artists need to get off their high horse and get into the real world where you don't have the income to buy every single album out there so you have no choice but to pick and choose your favourites through listening to them for free before you buy. So many artists just knock the ball out the park with the singles but the rest of the album is all mediocre filler anyway. They're ripping us off and I for one don't stand for it. I only blindly purchase music from my absolute favourites and everyone else gets a free listen first. As an amateur music critic, I need to have an outlet to listen to music for free anyway. Artists are just afraid of Spotify because they're worried people will hear their music for free, realise it's crap and be thankful that they didn't waste money buying it. It's that simple. If 2014 was any indication, artists need to step up their game BIG TIME if they want us to buy a complete album nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memo 176 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 was anyone REALLY looking for it though? get out go bash björk and her fans somewhere else you literally stan allie xShe makes great points but ultimately, I just can't agree with these actions of late. I wish they'd stop trying to claim it's nothing to do with money because it obviously plays a role in some capacity. I can see the point of major sellers not complying because they could really lose out on sales which is precious to them but someone like Bjork, who's of indie level these days, barely sell anything to begin with, Spotify or not, so what's the harm in using it to get your music out there? And Vulnicura was leaked and shortly thereafter put up for digital sale since January, so I'm sure all the fans have bought it now anyway. Spotify is an amazing way to get your music heard in an extremely difficult sales market and in a world where so many albums are released that no one can buy them all. And remember that touring makes up for a lot of lost sales. Bon Jovi's last album sold peanuts and they can't get hit singles anymore but their tour pulled in $247 million worldwide with just 102 dates. Beyonce just did a greatest hits compilation with her latest tour and had no new work to support it and yet it pulled in $230 million and became her most successful tour ever. Kate Bush did a bunch of sold out shows in London of all her old material and sales of her past work skyrocketed afterwards. Point is, you can't just release an album, sit back and expect it to sell like the old days. You have to work your ass off in this current climate. But put in the effort and you will be rewarded with sales, even if your work is being streamed for free. All the biggest albums of the year are all over YouTube, as they have been long before Spotify was invented, so you can't say that having your songs freely available online is the sole reason why you can't sell. Certain artists need to get off their high horse and get into the real world where you don't have the income to buy every single album out there so you have no choice but to pick and choose your favourites through listening to them for free before you buy. So many artists just knock the ball out the park with the singles but the rest of the album is all mediocre filler anyway. They're ripping us off and I for one don't stand for it. I only blindly purchase music from my absolute favourites and everyone else gets a free listen first. As an amateur music critic, I need to have an outlet to listen to music for free anyway. Artists are just afraid of Spotify because they're worried people will hear their music for free, realise it's crap and be thankful that they didn't waste money buying it. It's that simple. If 2014 was any indication, artists need to step up their game BIG TIME if they want us to buy a complete album nowadays. oh look you too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 96,386 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I applaud her, YAAAASSS!! Please more artists are this sane. :applause: (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ be delulu until it becomes trululu (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,560 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 She's right, more artists should do that RT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 She makes great points but ultimately, I just can't agree with these actions of late. I wish they'd stop trying to claim it's nothing to do with money because it obviously plays a role in some capacity. I can see the point of major sellers not complying because they could really lose out on sales which is precious to them but someone like Bjork, who's of indie level these days, barely sell anything to begin with, Spotify or not, so what's the harm in using it to get your music out there? And Vulnicura was leaked and shortly thereafter put up for digital sale since January, so I'm sure all the fans have bought it now anyway. Spotify is an amazing way to get your music heard in an extremely difficult sales market and in a world where so many albums are released that no one can buy them all. And remember that touring makes up for a lot of lost sales. Bon Jovi's last album sold peanuts and they can't get hit singles anymore but their tour pulled in $247 million worldwide with just 102 dates. Beyonce just did a greatest hits compilation with her latest tour and had no new work to support it and yet it pulled in $230 million and became her most successful tour ever. Kate Bush did a bunch of sold out shows in London of all her old material and sales of her past work skyrocketed afterwards. Point is, you can't just release an album, sit back and expect it to sell like the old days. You have to work your ass off in this current climate. But put in the effort and you will be rewarded with sales, even if your work is being streamed for free. All the biggest albums of the year are all over YouTube, as they have been long before Spotify was invented, so you can't say that having your songs freely available online is the sole reason why you can't sell. Certain artists need to get off their high horse and get into the real world where you don't have the income to buy every single album out there so you have no choice but to pick and choose your favourites through listening to them for free before you buy. So many artists just knock the ball out the park with the singles but the rest of the album is all mediocre filler anyway. They're ripping us off and I for one don't stand for it. I only blindly purchase music from my absolute favourites and everyone else gets a free listen first. As an amateur music critic, I need to have an outlet to listen to music for free anyway. Artists are just afraid of Spotify because they're worried people will hear their music for free, realise it's crap and be thankful that they didn't waste money buying it. It's that simple. If 2014 was any indication, artists need to step up their game BIG TIME if they want us to buy a complete album nowadays. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fede ARTPOP 5,815 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 cant stand her music tbh 🖤 C H R O M A T I C A 🖤 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memo 176 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Love this new thread title! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,560 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 She's effing right. I don't want music or art to be consumed like fast-food. ​ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I would do the same... But it's obviously about the money, let's be a little more real and honest. This is their job, you don't work for free. Artists need to be more honest about this and cut the "artist integrity" bs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLONiCPRiNXESS 1 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 But with the free version of Spotify you can't even listen to an album properly; it shuffles the tracklisting and adds those ****ing annoying suggested songs and all the ads. I pay for Spotify Premium so I don't feel guilty at all for streaming albums, because it's technically not for free. I do see where the queen is coming from though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memo 176 Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 I would do the same... But it's obviously about the money, let's be a little more real and honest. This is their job, you don't work for free. Artists need to be more honest about this and cut the "artist integrity" bs. I mean, you can't just invalidate her reasons for taking it off Spotify. Maybe she really was offended by this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valextra 58 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I would do the same... But it's obviously about the money, let's be a little more real and honest. This is their job, you don't work for free. Artists need to be more honest about this and cut the "artist integrity" bs.​Of course it's about the money, but at the end they earn money also with Spotify, like Mark Ronson and Bruno Mars are earning 100k $ a week with Spotify streams...I agree with her only to not put it immediately, but at the end if people really want, they find other methods to download an album for free... At least with Spotify they earn money with streams, it's better than nothing or illegal downloads... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahkeenasitka 1,965 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I agree ..Spotify doesn't give them ****​i totally agree as well... i pretty much never use spotify, unless i want to sample an album that i'm considering buying. i try to support artists with my money as much as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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