tokyodisko 0 Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 She'd totally get ****, just because she could. I mean, Katy didn't with her horribly racist video and performance... but its Katy.  I honestly wouldn't care. It'd blow over.  I agree, even though I feel like Gaga is sort of doing that with GUY, just more in sync with the actual stories. hahaI don't mind it at all in either video. It's art and should be shared.  The social justice warriors on ONTD who have taken a sociology course at the local community college are sure concerned.   I can't stand those people.  at what point did she mention a nationality or a race? Gypsy. the word gypsy. lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 It's not a racial slur, it's actually an ethnic group.  The only thing that "could" be offensive is that she is calling herself a gypsy without being one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 hmm, seems too isolated tbh, like the chola situation  and there are a lot of gypsy titled songs, so i dont think we should worry I'm hoping not, because she really doesn't need the bad press. lol GUY is at least looking like it will be huge. :D Chola and Orient were both pretty racist though... like, I was surprised she used those terms. Chola less so, but still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Witch 250 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I agree, but two of those are much older and people were not as involved in "activism". It's not a metaphor. The name is from a group of thieves basically, from Romania or somewhere iirc. Like the word 'gypped'. It's a metaphor. She's describing herself like these gypsies, without a permanent home, always moving here and there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 It's not a racial slur, it's actually an ethnic group.  The only thing that "could" be offensive is that she is calling herself a gypsy without being one.  The ethnic group is Romani to my knowledge and some do NOT like being called gypsies. It's a metaphor. She's describing herself like these gypsies, without a permanent home, always moving here and there. It's an adjective. lol or noun, technically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Witch 250 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 The ethnic group is Romani to my knowledge and some do NOT like being called gypsies. It's an adjective. lol or noun, technically. How is it an adjective? It's a metaphor, or a--logy, like Judas, describing her being in love with a betrayer and a bad guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deku 1,444 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1f3bok/what_makes_europeans_hate_gypsies_so_much_are/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreadKiller 0 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I'm hoping not, because she really doesn't need the bad press. lol GUY is at least looking like it will be huge. :D Chola and Orient were both pretty racist though... like, I was surprised she used those terms. Chola less so, but still.  She just wanted it to rhyme, right? haha. I think she's way too intelligent to say things like those with bad intention. She was trying to represent everyone, not say "if you're hispanic you shoot streets up, steal and use d--gs and sharpie your brows in". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaDragon 10 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Lol tumblr :millie: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus 1,494 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 The ethnic group is Romani to my knowledge and some do NOT like being called gypsies. It's an adjective. lol or noun, technically. It's also a metaphor. She isn't a true gypsy, but she lives like one (moving from place to place).  metaphor: a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennji 546 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I agree, even though I feel like Gaga is sort of doing that with GUY, just more in sync with the actual stories. hahaI don't mind it at all in either video. It's art and should be shared.    I can't stand those people.  Gypsy. the word gypsy. lol it's a race? i thought it was a word to describe any nomadic person Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 How is it an adjective? It's a metaphor, or a--logy, like Judas, describing her being in love with a betrayer and a bad guy. "I'M a gypsy." as in a person or an attribute.  A metaphor would be saying "I'm like a gypsy" Comparing herself to one, not proclaiming it. :)  Judas was a metaphor for sure, but gypsy is much more literal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 it's a race? i thought it was a word to describe any nomadic person Yeah, haha it comes from a slur about an ethnic group, Romani(?), but in a lot f cultures the term is just used as a nomadic description, that's why I don't mind it. It's an entirely different definition, but does stem from the group of people.  It's also a metaphor. She isn't a true gypsy, but she lives like one (moving from place to place).  metaphor: a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.  I'm an english major. She's calling herself a gypsy. "I'm a gypsy" is not comparing anything. The symbolism from the word could be a metaphor, but the lyrics are very literal.  "...grave and earth you" is a metaphor. for s-x. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Witch 250 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 "I'M a gypsy." as in a person or an attribute.  A metaphor would be saying "I'm like a gypsy" Comparing herself to one, not proclaiming it. :)  Judas was a metaphor for sure, but gypsy is much more literal. Then by the same logic she is in love with the literal Judas because she sang 'I'm still in love with Judas' instead of 'I'm still in love with someone like Judas'? If your definition of 'Gypsy' means 'persons of nomadic habit of life' then yes, and that's what I'm trying to say, then the song is not racist at all. But if your 'Gypsy' means 'Romani people (or a certain race idk much)', which your thread is about, then you're wrong. Just my 2 cents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 The ethnic group is Romani to my knowledge and some do NOT like being called gypsies. It's an adjective. lol or noun, technically.  Gypsy is just an exonym. Some Romani people don't like to be called gypsies by foreigners but only because some people use the word in a derogatory way. And obviously she is not using the word in that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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